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Potential changes to the Law of Return: an explainer (Aliyah)
World Israel News ^ | 12/23/22 | Lauren Marcus

Posted on 12/24/2022 2:08:28 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal

Hebrew-language media reported Thursday that Prime Minister-designate Benjamin Netanyahu has walked back a recent promise he had made not to alter the Law of Return, as part of a coalition agreement with the ultra-Orthodox United Torah Judaism and Shas parties.

The proposition to change the law has roiled Israeli politicians, including those within Netanyahu’s Likud party.

Prominent Netanyahu ally Yuli Edelstein spoke out against any proposed changes, saying that adjusting the law was a slippery slope that could lead to the policy’s demise.

On the other hand, former Religious Services Minister Matan Kahana of the National Unity party, who clashed heavily with ultra-Orthodox politicians during his time in office, said changes to the law are necessary.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldisraelnews.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Judaism; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: aliyah; benjaminnetanyahu; immigration; israel; lawofreturn; likud; matankahana; nationalunityparty; netanyahu; shas; unitedtorahjudaism; waronterror; yuliedelstein

1 posted on 12/24/2022 2:08:28 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Without the Law of Return, the Israel loses its true identity. God created Israel for His people. It is nonnegotiable.

2 posted on 12/24/2022 2:41:24 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

I know an elderly lady married to a Christian minister who wears a Magen David gold necklace and considered herself a member of the tribe of Israel.


3 posted on 12/24/2022 3:09:21 PM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Hiddigeigei

Spiritually we are part of Israel. Genetically, not so much. Unless you’re a Messianic Jew.

CC


4 posted on 12/24/2022 3:52:17 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

They want to limit it to actual Jews:

Israeli politicians have focused on the “grandfather clause” within the Law of Return, which recognizes third-generation Jewish roots as sufficient for Israeli citizenship. This means that a person who has one Jewish grandparent, but who is not considered Jewish under Jewish law, can immigrate to Israel and claim citizenship. The clause also states that the spouse of this person is entitled to citizenship and residency as well.

The ultra-Orthodox parties have proposed that the grandfather clause be scrapped, which would mean that only those with Jewish mothers and fathers qualify for the streamlined path for Israeli citizenship.


5 posted on 12/24/2022 3:58:30 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (The rot of all principle begins with a single compromise.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Messyonics are nearly never Jews. They are not to be counted as such.


6 posted on 12/24/2022 5:28:49 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: SauronOfMordor
This means that a person who has one Jewish grandparent, but who is not considered Jewish under Jewish law, can immigrate to Israel and claim citizenship.

According to Jewish law, one is a Jew if one's mother is Jewish. If one's maternal grandmother is Jewish, then one's mother is Jewish and therefore you are Jewish. Being Jewish is NOT passed on by a paternal grandfather.

7 posted on 12/24/2022 5:33:19 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC

On that we’re gonna have to agree to disagree.

CC


8 posted on 12/24/2022 6:17:09 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Hiddigeigei
Interesting about your friend. I'm inclined to recall the story of Ruth. Anyway, I doubt that God looks on your friend with disfavor, bemusement maybe?

Under the Reich what she is doing would have been evidence enough to kill her. It's more than enough evidence for the "Palestinians" [sic] to kill her! But as for her "Right of Return"? That would be pushing her luck …

9 posted on 12/24/2022 7:53:53 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

God seemed to think that if people were willing to abide in the ways HE set forth, then they should be included among his people since a mixed multitude came out of Egypt with the children of God.

And, those who have accepted Yeshuah as messiah and are willing to abide in God’s ways, are to be considered adopted into the family.

Messy or not, few actually accept God’s wishes and ways. Most cling to man’s ways all the while strongly rationalizing why things should be according to man.


10 posted on 12/24/2022 8:59:23 PM PST by PrairieLady2
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To: SauronOfMordor

The reason for the “Jewish grandfather” rule was that it mirrored the Nazi definition of being Jewish. Israel after WWII didn’t want to throw up any roadblocks to Jewish citizenship. They wanted anyone who could be persecuted for being a Jew to be able to emigrate to Israel.

Times have changed. There have been incidents of “Russian Jews” emigrating to Israel and turning out to be neo-nazis. That is one of the main drivers for reforming the right to return.


11 posted on 12/24/2022 9:11:39 PM PST by sloanrb
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To: EinNYC
Messyonics are nearly never Jews. They are not to be counted as such.

I have a relative who is a Messianic Jew. She was born Jewish, of a Jewish mother and father, grew up Jewish, and as an adult decided that Jesus was the Messiah.

Are you saying that, by that decision, she is no longer Jewish? Meanwhile, atheists of Jewish descent seem to have no issues being regarded as Jews. What about a Jew who embraces Buddhism?

12 posted on 12/25/2022 8:40:02 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (The rot of all principle begins with a single compromise.)
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To: sloanrb

“There have been incidents of “Russian Jews” emigrating to Israel and turning out to be neo-nazis. ”

Do you mean classical “exterminate Jews” Nazis, or just “firmly against socialism and the Left’s agenda” Nazi?


13 posted on 12/25/2022 8:43:24 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (The rot of all principle begins with a single compromise.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

https://www.jta.org/archive/aliyah-from-former-soviet-union-brings-a-surprise-anti-semitism

…Anti-Semitism also is surfacing in other Israeli venues: Arbat, a bookstore with branches across Israel, sells books imported from Moscow with titles such as “The Holocaust Myth” and “Jewish Fascism in Russia.”…


14 posted on 12/25/2022 8:54:37 AM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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