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To: Philsworld
Even his own church said he did it. The only question seems to be about his eternal salvation. DID HE DIE IN UNREPENTANT SIN and if he did, IS HE GOING TO HEAVEN ANYWAY?

You ALL say OSAS and Ravi is on his way to heaven, no matter what he did to those women (wife included).

So I ask again...what’s the penalty for unrepentant sin?



The Messiah and his holy apostles warned the disciples over and over again to watch (their behavior) and be ready at any time lest He find them in sin and assign them their "portion with the unbelievers."
180 posted on 03/11/2022 8:12:59 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981
Addressed to you because you quoted from the chapter, but meant for everyone who might read it. It gives a good perspective on repentance.

On Ezekiel 18

30. Repent, and turn. Verses 30–32 constitute an appeal based on the principles of the justice of God’s dealings. When the counsel is given, “Make you a new heart and a new spirit” (v. 31), the prophet does not mean that man can save himself by his own power. But there is a part that man just act in the work of salvation. God can do nothing for man without man’s consent and cooperation. The meaning of repentance is not so clearly expressed by the Hebrew root, shub, as it is by the Greek, metonia. Nor does the English word always convey all that is bound up in this spiritual experience. The basic idea of shub is “to turn.” According to this definition, men turn from their sins. Metanoia is built on two words, the first, meta, which means “after,” and the second, nous, which means “mind.” The resultant meaning is to have a different mind afterward.

Sin has its seat in the mind. The soul must purpose the sinful act before passion can dominate over reason. The root of sin, then, is a bent of mind that causes man to choose the evil course. The solution to the problem is to correct this basic disposition. This is what repentance is intended to accomplish. A change must take place in the thinking of the individual. Since God never coerces the will, this act must be voluntary, but the Holy Spirit is given to aid the soul. It is quite impossible for the individual of himself to accomplish the transformation. But when he chooses to make the change and in his great need cries out to God, the powers of the soul are imbued with power from above and the propensity of the mind is corrected.

True repentance, then, is a function of the mind. It includes a thorough scrutinizing of the situation to discover what factors led to the defection, and also a study as to how similar errors can be avoided in the future. Repentance is the process whereby sin is expelled from the life. Once repented of, it can be confessed, and it will be forgiven. But confession without repentance is meaningless. God cannot forgive sins that are still active in the heart. This is the reason why the basic emphasis of the Scriptures is upon repentance rather than confession. Jesus’ fundamental teaching was, “Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand” (Matt. 4:17; Mark 1:15). Peter’s counsel was, “Repent, and be baptized” (Acts 2:38).

A proper grasp of the true meaning of repentance in its relationship to confession is essential to a successful spiritual experience. The reason many Christians fall so repeatedly into the same error is that they have never truly permitted the Holy Spirit to change their basic thinking with regard to that sin; they have never taken their sins to heart, to discover how, by the enabling grace of God, they might have complete victory over those sins.

Shall not be your ruin. Israel charged that God was unjust and caused their ruin. God declared that sin itself, which the sinner voluntarily chose, was their ruin. He may not acknowledge the justice of God’s ways now; but in that awful moment, when he conforms the Judge of all the earth, there will be heard from his lips the acknowledgment that God’s ways are just.

(SDA Bible Commentary)

183 posted on 03/12/2022 6:27:19 AM PST by Philsworld
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To: af_vet_1981; metmom

Dragging passages from Ezekiel to support the assertion you imply is New Testament admonition is deceptive, but not unexpected from a Catholicism blinded poster. Why are you so deceptive, not even including the location of your citation, as if everyone will click on it -and you know they will not, so you are being deceptive on purpose. Without deception Catholicism could not exist! And you are a prime example of the methodology, not discerning and seeking to fool folks.


186 posted on 03/12/2022 10:21:36 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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