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A Critique of the Protestant Missionary Presence in the former Soviet Union
Biblical Studies UK ^ | Mark Elliot & Sharyl Corrado

Posted on 02/26/2022 4:13:53 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

Very frequently mission mistakes result from a lack of appreciation for, and even ignorance of, the culture in question. It may be that the greatest flaw today in missionary orientation for post-Soviet lands is not its brevity, although that is frequently a serious shortcoming. The greatest flaw may be inadequate to nonexistent country-specific and culture-specific preparation; that is, woefully insufficient study of pertinent languages, literature and history.

Ministry training too often focuses on what might be called generic preparation...Greater attention to culture-specific orientation and training... would reap ample dividends in terms of less traumatic culture shock and greater longevity for personnel in the field. Missionaries to Russia, for example, who arrive ignorant of icons and Orthodoxy, Dostoyevsky and Tolstoy, Stanislavsky and Chekhov, Tchaikovsky and Rachmaninov, will not be taken seriously and will give deep offence.

I often have been asked by mission boards and mission candidates for recommended reading on Eastern Orthodoxy. And when I have suggested Don Fairbairn's thoughtful Evangelical critique Partakers of the Divine Nature I have been told, more than once, that at a hundred pages it is too much." My response is that if even 500 pages of reading on Orthodoxy is too much for missionaries bound for Russia, then the distance - in comprehension as well as miles - is too great. They had better stay at home.

Fortunately, those too busy to prepare properly do not represent the whole picture. I have also had the joy of leading a semester-long independent read- ings course on Eastern Orthodoxy that involved two missionaries on leave and one missionary candidate who regularly drove the over two hours round-trip to my office so that all four of us could gain a better understanding of Slavic Christianity. They minister today in Romania, southern Russia and Siberia.

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TOPICS: History; Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: evangelism; missionary; russia; ussr
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1 posted on 02/26/2022 4:13:53 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

As a Baptist, I actually find the Eastern Orthodox doctrine of deification to be rather congenial. Norman Russell has a quite good and extensive study of that doctrine in the Greek patristics.


2 posted on 02/26/2022 4:17:30 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy (I'd rather have one king 3000 miles away that 3000 kings one mile away)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

As a former missionary, the idea that someone could not study 100 pages to better understand the field is ludicrous. I speak and read Russian and have memorized many verses in Russian. No one that I knew went over there that unprepared.


3 posted on 02/26/2022 4:25:46 PM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Protestants should stay out of Slavic states. It’s like a 3rd grader going up against a tenured professor, spiritually speaking.

The riches of Orthodoxy cannot be found in any other Christian expression, as it is the Church of Christ and the full expression of Wisdom.

I once had a (formerly protestant) convert friend reprimand me for mocking the spiritual and intellectual simplicity of protestants. She told me, “We have this huge feast, with every possible food imaginable. And we say, “Come, eat with us! The food is plentiful, unending, and rich.” All they have is baby food and milk, and they mix it up in all these different ways to make it palatable, but it’s all they have and it’s all they know. They cant even imagine our reality.”

Don’t get me wrong, I personally don’t care if you or anyone else is a protestant. But it’s foolish to think any protestant has anything of faith to offer a practicing Orthodox. Almost all the protestants I know who genuinely explore Orthodoxy become Orthodox.


4 posted on 02/26/2022 4:34:30 PM PST by JoanSmith
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To: JoanSmith

Just wow. My dad (when he was alive), made a couple of trips to the Ukraine to help with the work of the church there in a preacher training school (church of Christ). The way you just wrote makes my draw drop. The attitude of so many people these days, like yours, portends the second coming of Christ. I don’t see how things can ever improve.


5 posted on 02/26/2022 4:58:18 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Do they also send missionaries to New York and California where the sinners are?


6 posted on 02/26/2022 5:25:54 PM PST by FarCenter
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; JoanSmith; wbarmy; Yashcheritsiy

Some of them seem to have come to the US from Russia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDqK8C3w2m8
О молитва

and have picked up country western gospel along the way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECCnsgCmksc

В сионской горнице


7 posted on 02/26/2022 5:27:41 PM PST by Norski
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To: FarCenter
Do they also send missionaries to New York and California where the sinners are?

South Korean Christians have a substantial mission outreach in southern California, centered in Fullerton, on the border between Los Angeles and Orange counties.

8 posted on 02/26/2022 5:34:16 PM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (I won't let the rocks cry out in my place)
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To: JoanSmith
Protestants should stay out of Slavic states. It’s like a 3rd grader going up against a tenured professor, spiritually speaking.

That's funny; I think the same thing about chrstians (of any variety) trying to convert Jews.

9 posted on 02/26/2022 6:00:18 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Secularism is a fraud and a failure.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege; ConservativeMind; ealgeone; Mark17; BDParrish; fishtank; boatbums; Luircin; ...
Your Catholic excerpt criticizing evangelical evangelism in Russia - now outlawed (happy?) - a country in which hardly anyone goes to church, only presents one side.
Recognising postcommunist mission mistakes, and recalling the region's long- standing tradition of state churches identified with particular nationalities, one can more readily explain the genesis of various legislative measures to curb Western missionary activity. The fact of ill-advised and ill-informed Christian witness is however only part of the explanation for the hostile reception. Communists, national- ists and the hierarchs of former state churches also oppose Evangelical missionaries because they are just as often warm, winsome and loving as they are brash, brazen and culturally clueless. Opposition, then, is as much a function of what Evangelicals are doing right as it is of what they are doing wrong. It may be argued that so many ministries are having such a beneficial effect, in so many places, in so many ways, that their detractors cannot tolerate it, and as a result seek to restrict freedom of conscience by erecting political barriers which discriminate against arbitrarily defined 'non-traditional' faiths. In the meantime, large numbers of Western ministries are making perhaps their greatest impact for good in former Soviet-bloc states through all manner of specialised assistance, including facilitating in-country radio broadcasting, publish- ing, and film and video production, entering into partnership with indigenous churches to help provide training at all levels from Sunday school to seminary, sharing expertise in counselling on marriage, family, youth, prison, alcohol and drugs and introducing sports, camping, and drama ministries.

10 posted on 02/26/2022 8:31:56 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save U + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: JoanSmith
"Protestants should stay out of Slavic states. It’s like a 3rd grader going up against a tenured professor, spiritually speaking. The riches of Orthodoxy cannot be found in any other Christian expression, as it is the Church of Christ and the full expression of Wisdom"

The NT church saw great evangelism by new converts, while your arrogance is a reason why evangelicals should stay NOT out of Slavic states (and just 7% of Russians say they attend services on a weekly basis anyway). While having substantial disagreements with Rome, they hold many of the distinctive Catholic teachings that are not manifest in the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed (which is Scripture, in particular Acts through Revelation, which best shows how the NT church understood the gospels).

11 posted on 02/26/2022 8:33:54 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save U + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: JoanSmith
It’s like a 3rd grader going up against a tenured professor, spiritually speaking.

Oh yeah, nothing says "tenured professor of spirituality" than the degenerate KGB agent and purveyor of Liberation Theology, Archbishop Kirill. In fact, according to KGB files, pretty much ALL Russian Orthodox Priests with any authority have KGB codenames and served the state. The very few that didn't, or who only served half-heartedly, were never promoted.

And Daniel is quite right that only 7% of the population even bothers to attend church once a month.

So much for the "spiritual treasures" of Orthodoxy! In Russia, it's quite dead, just a fake State Run church for its fake Priests and Fake "elected" leaders.

12 posted on 02/26/2022 9:14:30 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

https://nlradio.net/

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13 posted on 02/26/2022 9:22:21 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: FarCenter
Do they also send missionaries to New York and California where the sinners are?

When I lived in California, I met Koreans, who were missionaries to California.

14 posted on 02/26/2022 10:02:52 PM PST by Mark17 (USAF ATCer, Retired. Father of USAF pilot. ATCers & pilots, the only required elements of aviation.)
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To: JoanSmith
Don’t get me wrong, I personally don’t care if you or anyone else is a protestant. But it’s foolish to think any protestant has anything of faith to offer a practicing Orthodox.

Except true salvation.

I guess the simplicity of the gospel of Jesus Christ does look unappealing to someone who thinks religion is about the smells and bells and dazzling the eyes with their finery and pomp, but religion, no matter how overwhelming to the senses, can never impart eternal life.

15 posted on 02/26/2022 10:10:36 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
My response is that if even 500 pages of reading on Orthodoxy is too much for missionaries bound for Russia, then the distance - in comprehension as well as miles - is too great. They had better stay at home.

If 500 pages of reading on American history is too much for voters selecting leaders, then the ballot box insertions are too valuable. They had better stay at home watching Gilligan.

16 posted on 02/27/2022 4:04:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JoanSmith
Almost all the protestants I know who genuinely explore Orthodoxy become Orthodox.

Especially the True Scotsmen.

17 posted on 02/27/2022 4:06:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

There is a lot of FR Christians that sem to never open the Book they profess to live by.


18 posted on 02/27/2022 4:08:06 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fishtank

So THERE!


19 posted on 02/27/2022 4:09:26 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
The Russian Orthodox Church had two separate organizations in Soviet times: one thoroughly controlled by the KGB and another that opposed the state controlled church. I understand that the two organizations merged in post-Soviet times. However, non-Orthodox Christians are subject to restrictions and even persecution in current day Russia. OTIH, Ukraine has real freedom of religion.
20 posted on 02/27/2022 4:12:36 AM PST by Wallace T.
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