[Jim W N]

Matt 24 is not chronological whereas Revelation is. Matt 24 is not chronological because Jesus is talking to the Jews who's main concern will be the events after the rapture because so many of them will not be saved when Jesus comes for his saints.

After describing the horrific events of Daniel's 70th week - the 7-year tribulation - (Matt 24:4-35), he then warns those Jews who will listen about being ready for the rapture so they won't have to go trough the tribulation (Matt. 24:36-44).

The rapture and the second coming of Christ are not the same event.

That's right. They are the first part and the second part of Jesus second coming.

Calling the rapture part one of the second coming is does not work since Christ does not come down at the rapture.

Christ certainly comes down from Heaven in the rapture - coming for his own. In the first part of his second coming, he comes FOR his saints. (He just doesn't touch down on the earth.) What does scripture call it?

COMING of the Son of man (Matt. 24:37, 39); watch therefore for you do not know what hour your Lord COMES (v.42); and again, therefore be ready for in an hour you don't think so, the Son of Man COMES

That's the rapture Baby - nobody except the Father knows the day or the hour, but anyone paying attention will know the EXACT time of the second part of his second coming WITH his saints (the end of Daniel's seventieth week, Armageddon, and the establishment of his rule on earth).

Compare scripture with scripture. Let scripture (not the flesh) interpret scripture. What does 1 Thessalonians say?

For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the COMING of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will DESCEND FROM HEAVEN with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

1 Thess. 4:15-17.

That is an exact, detailed description of the first part of the Lord's second coming - the "great catching up" AKA the "rapture".

Erase your blackboard my FRiend and let the Lord write it out for you - he knows a heck of a lot more about this stuff that you or anyone else does.

[Seven_0]

Matt 24 is not chronological whereas Revelation is. Matt 24 is not chronological.

If your interpretation is right then Matthew 24 is not in chronological order. We do not know the day or the hour of the rapture or the second coming either.

I don’t think Revelation is in chronological order. “But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished.” After the seventh trumpet, it jumps back. “Thou must prophesy again.”

I can see more than one possibility in many cases. I think it is possible that “ the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ” (Rev. 11:15) is the second coming.