Posted on 07/09/2021 5:59:15 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
Wondering whether there are any members of the Free Presbyterian movement (North America or Ulster), or of the Bible Presbyterian movement who are Freepers.
A new pastor, Richard Clark, has been installed at the Salem Presbyterian Church in Salem, Indiana. The following, in his own words, is his vision for the church (as quoted in the Salem Leader-Democrat Newspaper, Thursday, July 8, 2021:
"My vision for the Salem Presbyterian is openness, new ideas, social justice, and getting back to the real teachings of Jesus instead of the doctrines about him. To follow Jesus means more than worshipping him; it means following what he taught."
Immediately my eye caught the expression, "social justice."
The new pastor of the Salem Presbyterian Church is a social just warrior, we take, and the entire "vision" that he has, reading it together, looks like the old "Liberation Theology."
I would like to locate books, articles, or tracts on the "social justice" issue, CRT, Liberation Theology, and other catch phrases for Marxism written by fundamentalist Presbyterian authors, and who identify themselves as such.
From my observation, I don't know that there are any more fundamentalist Presbyterians than the Free and Bible Presbyterian (denominations/synods). Perhaps other Presbyterians will argue with me about that.
So, I will accept help from other fundamentalist Presbyterian brethren, but I am really hoping to hear from Free Presbyterians (NA or Ulster), or Bible Presbyterians.
Free Presbyterians are Woke Presbyterians?
Are you REAL sure about that? This is the movement of the late Ian Paisley. And their web site has definite statements against abortion and same-sex marriage, etc. I don't think that they are woke. Are you sure you're not confusing them with another movement?
woke is poison.
It’s PCUSA. What would you expect.
I really think you have it wrong on the Free Presbyterians. Look at their web site and get their materials and sermons.
OPC here. (Orthodox Presbyterian Church)
Likely, it would be a good idea to go back to the genesis of the Liberation Theology movement. Granted it was a Catholic movement, led by Maryknolls and Jesuits, but they in turn were influenced by European Catholic Marxists that emerged after World War II. A good start for the influence they had in North America is Blase Bonpane’s, Guerillas of Peace: Liberation Theology and the Central American Revolution. South End Press (1985).
We try to have a ministry toward the pastors in our small town. We try to use materials from fundamentalists that are of their general identification (here, Presbyterian).
This looks like it is a PCUSA church, which means it is under the control of Satan.
http://www.usachurches.org/church/salem-presbyterian-church.htm
Many of the PCUSA churches try to hide their affiliation with PCUSA at this point. I couldn’t find any reference to PCUSA at the church website, but found the above link with information.
PCUSA has lost at least half of its membership over say the last 20 years.
Would you know if OPC authors have published materials on “social justice,” etc. that are correct?
I used to feel comfortable with the Evangelical Free Church and the Free Methodists.
So many churches seem to wander.
Haha! OPC of Cape Cod here. Cheers my reformed brother.
Thank you for that URL. As you said, the local church’s own web site did not identify them with the PCUSA (which we know is liberal). And that’s my whole point.
Lots of liberals teaching at seminaries.
Laodicea.
We’re not about social justice. We’re about the gospel.
I don’t know of any offhand, but that is a good question. I would say that there are probably some OPC pastors who might be more liberal on such things than others, but they would not be in the majority.
Tim Keller, a liberal PCA pastor, is woke, and it is reflected in his books. Here is a review of Keller’s latest book from the OPC website. As you can see, the reviewer does’t buy Keller’s social justice tripe.
https://opc.org/review.html?review_id=349
Greetings and Freegards!
It might be helpful to know where he went to seminary.
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