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[Catholic Caucus] The lawless, heartless St. Peter’s Mass Suppression Stunt – more
Fr. Z's Blog ^ | March 21, 2021 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 03/22/2021 2:02:47 PM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] The lawless, heartless St. Peter’s Mass Suppression Stunt – more

I’ve received a couple of photos today of men saying Masses at side altars of St. Peter’s Basilica.  Soon to be a memory.  As of tomorrow, these individual Masses are suppressed.  Priests who want to say Mass will be forced to concelebrate.  The TLM is banished to the crypt, where there will also be competition from priests who say the Novus Ordo to get on the schedule to reserve the chapel.

There is nothing to this that cannot be walked back with the flick of a pen.

On EWTN, Card. Gerhard Müller called the decree “very strange”.  He said “nobody is obliged to obey it.”  I’m not sure how that would work, exactly.  I’d like to see what would happen.

As far as concerns the virtual suppression of the TLM, by making it so hard to find and in such restrictive conditions, I saw this tweet today.  Think about it.  1985 in the Archd. of Milwaukee.  This was after the initial 1984 “Indult” (which we now know was unnecessary because Benedict XVI that the TLM was never abolished).

Is it hard to imagine that, today, sheer hatred and lawlessness will not be attempted in other places because of the heartless, lawless San Pietro Suppression (SPS)?

Another person informed us in the combox here that Beans was interviewed for the Jesuit publication Amerika about the TLM and the SPS.   He came up with some pretty crazy stuff, which he must know is nuts (e.g. praying in Latin is contrary to the texts of Vatican II… there are no Old Testament readings in the TLM, etc.).  If he really believes it, he is way out of touch and should never, ever opine about anything having to do with traditional worship again.  If he doesn’t believe it, then he is purposely spreading falsehoods.  Part of his gleeful line about the SPS is that it emphasizes the theology of Vatican II, which he virtually admits is in complete discontinuity with theology before Vatican II.

He goes on to say all sorts of absurd things about the TLM, some are just twistings, others are plain false.  He doesn’t know what he was talking about.  I actually laughed a couple of times.

Let’s just say that his arguments were in a certain way… “a posteriori“.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: apostatepope; dictatorpope; pachamama
"We must make more space and more time available for Pachamama worship in St. Peter's":


1 posted on 03/22/2021 2:02:47 PM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 03/22/2021 2:03:21 PM PDT by ebb tide
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3 posted on 03/22/2021 2:14:51 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I wonder if the foolish people who penned this rule of treachery ever give a thought to meeting the Holy Spirit on their day of reckoning. Seems unlikely.


4 posted on 03/22/2021 5:02:36 PM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: ebb tide

If mass must be concelebrated, the whole meaning of the liturgy is changed.


5 posted on 03/22/2021 5:11:40 PM PDT by Marchmain (i vote pro-life)
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To: Marchmain

Agreed.


6 posted on 03/22/2021 5:16:42 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Marchmain
If mass must be concelebrated, the whole meaning of the liturgy is changed.

In addition, the "masses" must be animated.


7 posted on 03/22/2021 7:16:28 PM PDT by ebb tide
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