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Can Halloween be Christianized Again?
Return to Order ^ | October 2018 | John Horvat II

Posted on 10/28/2020 8:02:32 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

As Halloween approaches, the debate over whether Catholics should join in the celebrations has reignited. Many claim it is a harmless holiday for children that Catholics may freely participate in. Others affirm that it has now descended into dark regions with the return of pagan and Satanic imagery. It should thus be off limits.

And then there are those who look for a third way somewhere in-between. They propose alternative celebrations, All Saints Day commemorations or fall festivals. In this way, Halloween, an originally Catholic feast, can be “re-Christianized” and re-purposed to promote the Faith. They hope to turn Halloween into a teaching moment for all good Christians.

Halloween Cannot be Ignored

Finding a Christian way to celebrate Halloween is a problem for many parents. Halloween cannot be ignored. Their children will necessarily be exposed to it.

It has become a feast that is only surpassed by Christmas in economic terms. Many households now have Halloween decorations inside and outside their homes. It is a huge party night in which Americans spend billions of dollars on costumes and events. It is a big night adventure for children who engage in their traditional quest for “trick or treat.”

However, another point cannot be ignored. The darker celebrations of Halloween glorify the occult, the bizarre and macabre. New developments in costumes make zombie-like outfits much more realistic and horrifying. The increasing popularity of Satanic movements like Wicca has helped popularize Halloween as sacred. The modern focus of Halloween is increasingly focused on a fascination with evil, horror, and gore.

Ironically, a liberal society that deplores the rise of violence and abuse in other fields makes few objections to this bloody and macabre holiday.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: allsaintsday; allsoulsday; christianity; culturewar; halloween; samhain; satanism
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Interesting essay about Halloween
1 posted on 10/28/2020 8:02:32 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I wish we could go back to making Halloween strictly a kid’s holiday like it used to be.


2 posted on 10/28/2020 8:09:38 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

yep, it’s not even a holiday.


3 posted on 10/28/2020 8:10:24 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (#wwg1wga #Godwins - What is scarier than offensive words? Not being able to say them..)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It never not de-Christianized in the Philippines and Mexico. However, this year, the Communist puppet Duterte banned All-Souls and All-Saints Days and banned visiting cemeteries.

Only kids do the trick-or-treating here in the Philippines (mainly in Subdivision with lots of Westerners). However, illegal this year as well by being banned by Xi’s buttboy DU30.


4 posted on 10/28/2020 8:10:43 PM PDT by Starcitizen (Communist China needs to be treated like the pariah country it is. Send it back to 1971)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Please, don’t throw verbal rocks at me.

If you are a protestant Halloween should simply be renamed. It was on October 31, 1517 that Martin Luther nailed the 95 thesis to the Wittenberg door.

It is Reformation Day and should be, after Christmas and Easter, the third most important day in the Protestant liturgical year.

I refuse to celebrate Halloween, but will celebrate Reformation Day


5 posted on 10/28/2020 8:10:51 PM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no justice until PIAPPS is hanging from a gallows.)
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To: Fai Mao

I’m just the messenger/poster.


6 posted on 10/28/2020 8:14:29 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hope is not a plan. -- Matthew Bracken)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Christian??? I don’t think so. Its a pagan festival going back thousands of years, with antler dance orgies, no doubt

“Halloween’s origins date back to the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain. The Celts, who lived 2,000 years ago, mostly in the area that is now Ireland, the United Kingdom and northern France, celebrated their new year on November 1”

“This day marked the end of summer and the harvest and the beginning of the dark, cold winter, a time of year that was often associated with human death. Celts believed that on the night before the new year, the boundary between the worlds of the living and the dead became blurred. On the night of October 31 they celebrated Samhain, when it was believed that the ghosts of the dead returned to earth.”

https://www.history.com/topics/halloween/history-of-halloween


7 posted on 10/28/2020 8:15:28 PM PDT by baclava
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Is there any form of Idolatry that the “Holy Catholic” leadership will not assimilate?

Halloween? Seriously?


8 posted on 10/28/2020 8:20:06 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Isn’t the name even Christian? All-Halloweds’ Eve?


9 posted on 10/28/2020 8:20:25 PM PDT by CraigEsq
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To: baclava

Indeed carved pumpkins were supposed to scare off the dead. Kinda a Celtic night of the living dead pre plot.


10 posted on 10/28/2020 8:22:28 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

No. Little kids need candy.

College kids need someplace to dress as black-face Hitler.


11 posted on 10/28/2020 8:23:45 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Use the crèche test.

For the Christmas season, along with the tree and decor, you put up a traditional crèche.

A visitor to your home takes one look and declares the crèche to be Satanic and evil. Why? Because some Satanists are adopting it as symbolic of the devil.

So, what do you do? Do you accept the notion and take it down, or do you leave it up and say “This crèche has nothing to do with Satanism or evil”?

The same with Halloween and Easter. Some who dislike Christianity and its holidays decide to corrupt them with tales. Do you embrace their ideas, or do you hold to the traditional religious meanings?


12 posted on 10/28/2020 8:31:17 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All men and women were created by the, you know, you know, the thing." -- Joe Biden 3/3/20)
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To: Vermont Lt

“No. Little kids need candy.”

No, dentists need little kids to have candy.


13 posted on 10/28/2020 8:53:33 PM PDT by alternatives? (If our borders are not secure, why fund an army?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

http://www.av1611.org/halloween.html

It’s certainly not a harmless holiday. The demonic spirits are in a frenzy . . . they know what is going to eventually happen to them . . .they took a look in the Book!


14 posted on 10/28/2020 8:54:13 PM PDT by Maudeen (Wake up true believers in Christ and VOTE!)
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To: Fai Mao
You're celebrating vandalism of Church property? That door had nail holes in it for a long long time.

/s

15 posted on 10/28/2020 9:06:31 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Rome wasn't built in a day. All Hail the night shift!)
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To: BipolarBob

:}

I guess so.


16 posted on 10/28/2020 9:09:56 PM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no justice until PIAPPS is hanging from a gallows.)
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To: Fiji Hill

Me too. Most kids wore costumes that were simple and largely home made, and all meant to be fun, not scary. A parent or older sibling escorted the trick or treaters, with neighborhood gossip and Christmas plans, parties, and invites sketched out among the adults as they passed in the streets. The overall atmosphere was that of a genteel block party, without alcohol or a mess to be cleaned up.


17 posted on 10/28/2020 9:19:18 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It never was. God has holy days. They are clearly listed in the bible. The traditional church tossed them out because of anti-jewish hatred and adapted the customs and rites of non-Israelites.


18 posted on 10/28/2020 9:21:29 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Phinneous

It has become a feast that is only surpassed by Christmas in economic terms. Many households now have Halloween decorations inside and outside their homes. It is a huge party night in which Americans spend billions of dollars on costumes and events. It is a big night adventure for children who engage in their traditional quest for “trick or treat.”

Interesting. Jack O'Lantern must be Irish then.

In folklore, a will-o'-the-wisp, will-o'-wisp or ignis fatuus (Latin for 'giddy flame',[1] plural ignes fatui), is an atmospheric ghost light seen by travelers at night, especially over bogs, swamps or marshes. The phenomenon is known in English folk belief, English folklore and much of European folklore by a variety of names, including jack-o'-lantern, friar's lantern, hinkypunk and hobby lantern and is said to mislead travelers by resembling a flickering lamp or lantern.[2] In literature, will-o'-the-wisp metaphorically refers to a hope or goal that leads one on but is impossible to reach or something one finds sinister and confounding.[3]

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An Irish version of the tale has a ne'er-do-well named Drunk Jack or Stingy Jack who, when the Devil comes to collect his soul, tricks him into turning into a coin, so he can pay for his one last drink. When the Devil obliges, Jack places him in his pocket next to a crucifix, preventing him from returning to his original form. In exchange for his freedom, the Devil grants Jack ten more years of life. When the term expires, the Devil comes to collect his due. But Jack tricks him again by making him climb a tree and then carving a cross underneath, preventing him from climbing down. In exchange for removing the cross, the Devil forgives Jack's debt. However, no one as bad as Jack would ever be allowed into heaven, so Jack is forced upon his death to travel to hell and ask for a place there. The Devil denies him entrance in revenge but grants him an ember from the fires of hell to light his way through the twilight world to which lost souls are forever condemned. Jack places it in a carved turnip to serve as a lantern.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will-o%27-the-wisp

Luke 11:33 No man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light.

19 posted on 10/28/2020 9:21:30 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word. Goy to the World!)
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To: alternatives?

There are a lot of folks on FR that have forgotten what fun used to be. So many serious people. LOL.


20 posted on 10/28/2020 9:41:09 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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