Zoroastrians make comeback in northern Iraq, but still face stigma {Kurds converting from Islam to Zoroastrianism}

Israel Hayom ^ | 2 October 2020 | ILYHF

[Zionist Conspirator]

Freddie Mercury was a Zoroastrian......................

ARG! He was an ethnic Parsee; he did not practice the religion (since it considers homosexuality an unforgivable sin).

[Red Badger]

He was given a Zoroastrian funeral..................

[jcon40]

And this guy’s a great Chef too !

[jimmygrace]

I would imagine conversion from Islam to Zoroastrianism carries the same penalty of death as conversion from Islam to Christianity.

[katana]

I would imagine conversion from Islam to Zoroastrianism carries the same penalty of death as conversion from Islam to Christianity.

Oooh, yeah. And then some. The occasional benevolent passages in the Quran (the ones the ignorati use to call Islam a ROP) refer to Jews and Christians as "Peoples of the Book" (Ahl al-Kitaab). There's no mercy for apostasy of any kind, but to a non-Abrahamic religion? Double dog death.

[Cronos]

Correct - conversion from Islam (apostasy from Islam) is punishable by death as per the Hadiths. Doesn’t matter if to Christianity, to Zoroastrianism, to Hinduism, to atheism

[Cronos]

In Iran, to get converts in the 8th century, they extended the term “People of the book” to Zorastrians, as the Zoroastrians have “a book” - the Avestan

[Cronos]

it depends — in India the Parsis (descendents of the Zoroastrians who migrated in the 8th century to Gujarat) do not accept converts as that was some kind of deal they made with the Maharajah of the Gujarati kingdom.

Then it became a race thing - you needed to have your dad a Parsi to become a Parsi.

But the Iranis accept converts.

[Arcadian Empire]

By all indications, yes, the Magi were Zoroastrian.

[SunkenCiv]

[Ransomed]

https://www.asianage.com/metros/mumbai/231217/parsis-take-to-cremation-solar-desiccation-of-bodies.html

I think I recall that the vulture population was decimated by some sort of cattle medication, this is what they came up as a solution I guess.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26431-ban-of-vulture-killing-drug-in-india-is-working/

FReegards

[Robwin]

Freddie Mercury was a Zoroastrian

I won't hold that against them.

[SunkenCiv]

the four Zoro' keywords, chrono, duplicates out:

• Zoroastrianism Rises in North America [2020]
• Persian New Year's Table Celebrates Nature's Rebirth that may herald the Mullah's end [2020]
• Iraqi Kurds turn to Zoroastrianism as faith, identity entwine [2019]
• Zoroastrians hold ceremony at fire temple in Kurdistan Region [2019]
• The encounter of Zoroastrianism with Islam in Iran [2019]
• The 16,000 Martyrs of Persia during the Reign of Shapur II, 4th century AD [2019]
• Grand Opening of North America's First Zoroastrian Fire Temple [2019]
• I have witnessed the end of those who harassed the worshipers of God~Constantine's letter to Shapur [2019]
• In Iran, the ruling mullahs are dreading Iranians' coming beloved fire festival [2019]
• {Turkey}: Man's Zoroastrian religion used to prove PKK loyalty {Kurdish} [2018]
• Online dating is saving the ancient Zoroastrian religion [2018]
• anti Islam protests grow in Iran - more cities join " We are Aryans , we dont worship a Arab... [2017]
• Egypt: Muslim TV host says jihad massacres of Christians "okay," but not jihad massacre in mosque [2017]
• {Zoroastrian} Is Real Change Coming to Iran? Get Ready for March 15, 2017 [2017]
• Is real change coming to Iran? Get ready for March 15, 2017 [2016]
• YULE - Day of Winter Solstice 12/21/2016 [2016]
• Head of Zoroastrian temple says people are returning to their roots [2016]
• The changing face of Islam in Kurdistan [2016]
• Dating to Save Your Tiny Religion From Extinction [2016]
• In Whose God Do We Trust? [2016]
• UN Report: Iran's Human Rights Record Worse Under Rouhani than Ahmadinejad [2015]
• Jihad ravaged Christian Byzantium for 800 years: how valiantly the Byzantine Christians [2015]
• A Video Featuring Snoop Dogg Has Caused Uproar Among a Religious Group in India [2015]
• Why Iranians are lapping up Shah memorabilia [2015]
• Star Wars sucks. There, we said it. [2015]
• Zoroastrian faith returns to Kurdistan in response to ISIS violence [2015]
• 'Eternal flames' of ancient times could spark interest of modern geologists [2015]
• ISIS sweep forces religious minority to die of thirst on mountain [2014]
• Iraq's Yazidis in danger [2014]
• UN report blasts Iran for persecution of Christians, other religious minorities [2014]
• How Muslims Did Not Invent Algebra [2013]
• 1700 B.C.: 'Alla' god of 'violence and revolution' [2012]
• {Kurdistan Worker's Party}PKK and Zoroastrianism [2011]
• Monument to Babek (Irani fighter against Islam) to be erected in Baku [2011]
• Saudi Arabian Wahhabi Mufti Says Iranians are Zoroastrian [2011]
• Comparing Christianity and the New Paganism [2011]
• Main beliefs of Zoroastrianism [2011]
• 'Priestly' battle continues to rage (goes to Supreme Court) [2011]
• "From Nowruz till Nowruz, the Philosophy of Iranian Zoroastrian celebrations and ceremonies' [2011]
• Sassanid fire temple discovered in central Iran [2010]
• Fundamentalist Calls To Ignore Norouz Go Unheard In Iran, Afghanistan [2010]
• Happy Norooz! [2010]
• Israel - Liberation of the aboriginal Jews from the twin fascisms of pan-Arabism and Islamism [2009]
• The Last of the Zoroastrians [2009]
• The Secret Life of the Magi Kings [Epiphany] [2009]
• The Last of the Zoroastrians [2008]
• Barack Obama and Slavery [2008]
• John McCain about to be on the VIEW [2008]
• Median Era Ring Discovered In Iran [2007]
• Zoroastrian fires and temples [2007]
• Ancient Persian (Zoroastrian) influence on Hinduism [2007]
• How Muslims Take over Cities [2007]
• Iran's Zoroastrians remember Arab conquest of Persia [2007]
• An Old Religion Says No To Billboards (Zoroastrians) [2007]
• Zoroastrians struggle for survival in Iran [2006]
• Zoroastrians Keep the Faith, and Keep Dwindling [2006]
• Kurdistan: Zoroastrian Temple discovered in Duhok [2006]
• Church of Cognizance out of line with zoroastrian religion [2006]
• Russian Archaeologist Says Merv Was Origin Of Zoroastrianism [2006]
• Atheist Devotional [2006]
• Iran is already far beyond yellow badges [2006]
• Jewish MP denies Iran badge plan [2006]
• Mullahs Fail to prevent Ancient Persian Festival [2006]
• Zoroastrians Turn To Internet Dating To Rescue Religion [2006]
• Iran: Zoroastrian Lawmaker Faces Slander Charges [2005]
• IRAN's MINORITIES PROTEST KHAMENEI AIDE'S "SINFUL ANIMAL" SLUR [2005]
• Leftwing Bigot Watch [2005]
• Remembering the "Arashes" of the 1988 Massacre of Iranian Political Prisoners [2005]
• Bombay's Parsis Differ on Future of Their Community [2005]
• How Konstantin became Farrokh [2005]
• Zoroastrianism - Religion of the Persian Empire [2005]
• Cyrus the Great in Biblical Prophecy [Zoroastrian leader mentioned 23 times in Bible] [2005]
• Zoroastrianism - The World of the Wise Lord [Religion of the Persian Empire] [2005]
• archaeologist Says Central Asia Was Cradle Of Ancient Persian Religion [2005]
• Nowruz : Persian New Year [2005]
• The Fire in Iran. Forget about diplomacy, this is war. [2005]
• Iran hardliners keep lid on ancient fire festival [2005]
• Ancient Zoroastrians forbade begging but encouraged people to help the poor [2005]
• The Difference Between Iranians And Arabs [2005]
• India's Parsis are disappearing [2005]
• Followers of Zoroaster share faith of 3 wise men [2004]
• Were the Wisemen who visited Jesus in Bethleham Persians? [2004]
• India's Zoroastrians and the Three Kings for Jesus [2004]
• Iranians celebrate 'Yalda' as longest night of the year [Ancient Zoroastrian Holiday] [2004]
• Parsis in India are on brink of extinction [2004]
• In Search of Zarathustra [Pre-Islamic Iran once again making a strong come back] [2004]
• Zoroastrian Magi forsees fall of Iranian Government on October 1st, 2004 [2004]
• Photo Series: Persepolis, Iran - Capital of Persian Empire [History] [2004]
• Archaeologists find signs of ancient advertisements from Sassanid era [2004]
• Flame of the Ancient Faith Still Flickers in Iran [2004]
• Future not so bright for Iran's [Zoroastrians] [2004]
• Our Islamic Fifth Column (written 2001 in the UK) [2004]
• Zoroastrian Prophecies [2004]
• The Kurdish People: A Background and History [2004]
• What the Bible Says About Persia and Persians [2004]
• Zoroastrians Fight Extinction [2003]
• Who are the Zoroastrians? [2003]
• God and people in Zoroastrianism [2003]
• Parsis (Zoroastrians) split over marriage rule [2003]
• Say good knight to Crusade clichés [Paul Mulshine] [2003]

[katana]

Thanks. Majored in Middle East History in college (roughly forty five years ago) but missed or forgot that. Shall I guess that dispensation wasn’t applied to the Hindu’s Bhagavad Gita by the Mughals?

[Cronos]

Sorry, the answer

it depends — in India the Parsis (descendents of the Zoroastrians who migrated in the 8th century to Gujarat) do not accept converts as that was some kind of deal they made with the Maharajah of the Gujarati kingdom.

Then it became a race thing - you needed to have your dad a Parsi to become a Parsi.

But the Iranis accept converts.

was incomplete

The Parsis are descendants of the Zoroastrians who FLED to Gujarat in the 8th century. They were mostly priestly caste and there is a tale that the Rajah said "I have no room for you, look, we are like this big glass of milk, full". The Magi put some sugar into the milk and said "look, we will be like the sugar - you won't see us, but we will make life better"

And in many ways the Parsis HAVE been a blessing to India. They were never persecuted, and they have been great businessmen and philanthropists for India and strong patriots -- think the Tatas, the Godrejs, the Wadias, etc.

These traditionally speak gujarati at home and Avestani Farsi in the Agiaries (fire temples)

The "Iranis" are Iranian Zoroastrians who stayed in Iran and came to India during the Safavid persecution and later during British Raj times (from 1800 onwards).

They spoke Farsi and had different traditions from the Parsis - as they were mostly the non-priestly castes. Their food is different -- AND TASTY -- if you are ever in Bombay, head to "Brittania restaurant" in Colaba and ask for their berry pulau --> delicious!

Iranis as they call themselves are more open to converts. You'll find some converts in the USA and Canada.

And Kurds are of course an Iranian people, so zoroastrianism is their pre-Islamic religion or Yazidism(I'm of the opinion that Yazidism is pre-Zoroastrian)

[Cronos]

hmmm... I majored in Mechanical engineering (for the money) but kept up my fascination with Assyriology, Mesopotamia, Elam, Persia, Dilmun and India.

The Hindus have the Bhagavad Gita, but that's not the core of their philosophy.

The early Mughals - especially Akbar - DID give the dispensation to the Hindus. Akbar actually tried to create his own religion, a syncretism between Hinduism and Islam. Most of these Mughals were hardly Muslim, they frowned on conversions and jihadis and they promoted Hindus to high positions.

That ended with Aurangzeb (died in 1707) -- this guy was a Muslim fundamentalist fanatic. He killed his brother and imprisoned his father and usurped the throne.

Aurangzeb was the APEX of the Mughal but also the cause of its downfall. He antagonized the Rajput, and triggered off the Maratha confederation by persecuting the Marathas (the Maharashtran people -- they are in the present state (country) of Maharashtra, where Bombay (Mumbai) is located - they have 2000+ years of history and a written language equally ancient)

Aurangzeb DID practice what he preached and lived a very simple life and was buried in a simple tomb (unlike his predecessors), but after his the empire crumbled and with a decade or two, you had the Maratha confederation taking over what was the Mughal empire and keeping the emperor as a figurehead.