Freemasons Acclaim Pope’s New Encyclical

Church Militant ^ | October 7, 2020 | Martin Barillas

[ebb tide]

The statement claimed that the pope's most recent encyclical "demonstrates how far away the present Catholic Church is from its former positions. In Fratelli Tutti, the pope embraces Universal Fraternity: the great principle of modern Freemasonry." The Catholic Church and Freemasonry have long been at odds, given their very distinct philosophical and theological differences.

[Bonemaker]

Obama’s people got into masons?

[ebb tide]

Ping

[BipolarBob]

The pope quoted St. Francis of Assisi, who once said that a Christian should love his neighbor "as much when he is far away from him as when he is with him."

Michael Corleone: There are many things my father taught me here in this room. He taught me: keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.

[dfwgator]

"It opens doors, I'm telling you!"

[who_would_fardels_bear]

Nice to see that the Spanish Freemasons are so supportive of all men AND women that they have so many female members... not.

[ocrp1982]

I was on Active Duty for 26 years. I was approached on numerous occasions by Freemasons. The initial approaches occurred when I had achieved a certain rank.
I turned down these offers as my research into the shady organization seemed to conflict with my Greek Orthodox faith.
And, I was concerned about an association with an organization that seemed to keep so much about themselves a secret.

[TianaHighrider]

Interesting.

[CdMGuy]

Is Jorge Bergoglio Catholic? No, he is a Freemason, and Catholics are not allowed to be Freemasons.

[EEGator]

Women are not allowed.
You know, like the Knights of Columbus.

[who_would_fardels_bear]

I know. I understand the KofC, but this seems a bit hypocritical for the masons to segregate men and women given their statements on the fraternal(sic) brotherhood and sisterhood of people.

[EEGator]

The Freemasons I have read about do not recognize the organizations that have women as Freemasons.
As they shouldn’t.

[Magnatron]

After 600 years of embarrassment for what they did to the Templars, maybe the Catholic Popes are coming around...

[who_would_fardels_bear]

The KofC are part of the Catholic Church which recognizes, supports, and values the differences between men and women.

Freemasons, on the other hand, are part of the Enlightenment tradition which has tended toward humanism and the blurring or elimination of distinctions.

The segregated and hierarchical nature of the Freemasons may be the way they designed it, but it seems to go against some of their core beliefs.

[DoodleBob]

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[healy61]

Does Order of Eastern Star, an appendant organization of Masonry, pass muster for the brotherhood and sisterhood of men and women?

[Jewbacca]

Isn’t there a Freemason sorority?

[Pontiac]

After 600 years of embarrassment for what they did to the Templars, maybe the Catholic Popes are coming around...

The Pope had little to do with what happened to the Templars.

The Templars were brought down by King Phillip of France.

King Phillip arrested the Templars without any permission from the Pope. Tortured confessions from them and then presented the confessions to the Pope. The confessions were also published widely to the French public that demanded actions against the Templars.

Unfortunately, the Templars having been defeated in the Holy Land had relocated their base to France.

Phillip was deeply in debt to the Templars and wanted to confiscate their wealth of himself. He was also unhappy of having an independent army located within his borders.

With the confessions of the Templars a fate accompli the Pope granted Phillip permission to destroy the Templars. The French King had already had a falling out with one of the Popes predecessors and the authority of the Pope in Frances was already diminished. There was little the Pope could do to stop events already far along.

[who_would_fardels_bear]

I used to be a member of the JayCees. They used to be separated into all-male and all-female groups. They were very successful and a growing association.

Then came the 60's and they were forced to disband the all-female group and let the women join the main JayCees group. Then membership collapsed.

So personally I am all for groups segregated by sex, and I can see where Catholic groups can justify maintaining sex-segregated groups.

However, it seems as if this would be something of a contradiction for organizations such as the Freemasons. The JayCees were a business-oriented group. It made sense for it to be all-male when the vast majority of individuals trying to move their way up the corporate ladder were men. However, when women were given equal access to leadership opportunities it made sense for the JayCees to disband the JayCeettes (who were the wives and girlfriends of the JayCees) and encourage women to join the JayCees for career advancement advice and support.

Still this totally destroyed the "boy's club" dynamic of the JayCees and smokers and beer bashes were replaced with board meetings and ice cream socials. It sucked.

I wouldn't wish integration on the Freemasons. It would totally destroy them. However, they need to modify their core beliefs to support more traditional beliefs and stop with all this quasi-Marxist-Jacobin "brotherhood of man" nonsense.