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Leftist Vaticanista: 30% of Church Against Pope
Church Militant ^ | 5/20/20 | Martina Moyski

Posted on 05/22/2020 6:32:34 PM PDT by marshmallow

Alleges a right-wing conspiracy at work

COLOGNE, Germany (ChurchMilitant.com) - A leftist Vatican expert is alleging that one-third of Catholic clerics are against Pope Francis, even working to incite a "cultural war" to undermine the pontiff's influence.

"You shouldn't underestimate that [number], it's just the tip of an iceberg," Marco Politi, former Vatican correspondent for the Italian newspaper La Repubblica said in an interview with Domradio.de, the media station of the archdiocese of Cologne.

"It is not a minority," Politi said. "I would estimate that 30% of the clergy, the committed laity and bishops of the world church are on this line," which he describes as "a very strong, conservative, traditionalist line."

"There has been opposition to Francis for years," he said. "Some bishops and cardinals are always in the front row, but behind them is a not inconsiderable part of the clergy and laypeople who are against Francis and any reforms in the Church."

As an example of the opposition the pope faces, the Vaticanista pointed to Abp. Carlo Maria Viganò's recent "very aggressive" manifesto warning of the "creation of a world government" related to the pandemic measures of the Church and the government.

Bearing the brunt of Politi's critique were the signatories of the manifesto, including former prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith Cdl. Gerhard Müller and Hong Kong archbishop emeritus Cdl. Joseph Zen, whom he accused of representing the "part of the Church hierarchy that wants the culture struggle."

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1 posted on 05/22/2020 6:32:34 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
A leftist Vatican expert is alleging that one-third of Catholic clerics are against Pope Francis, even working to incite a "cultural war" to undermine the pontiff's influence.

May their numbers multiply.

2 posted on 05/22/2020 6:42:28 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: marshmallow; Al Hitan; Coleus; DuncanWaring; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; kalee; ...

Ping


4 posted on 05/22/2020 6:49:18 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: marshmallow

Only a third? It should be at least two thirds.


5 posted on 05/22/2020 6:59:32 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: marshmallow
If we assume that 90% of the church is against diddling kids, and you look at the success (not) they had battling that, how do we expect 30% to win a culture war against the Francis version of evil which is a far more slippery, less clearly manifest, incarnation of evil?

Forgive me for being a negative nelly, but I don't think I'm being negative, I think I'm just being realistic, rational, and betting the future, barring an event or internal change I'm unaware of, is going to be more of the past.

The catholic church has zero teeth when it comes to fighting evil, and I would argue that in most cases its because its teeth are too busy committing evil to even think about resisting it.

6 posted on 05/22/2020 7:27:14 PM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: ebb tide

I hope 30% is on the (way) low side.


7 posted on 05/22/2020 7:29:23 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

I hope the percentage is higher too. However, it is good that Politi is a Vatican correspondent and not the science writer, if he thinks 30% is not a “minority.”


8 posted on 05/22/2020 7:48:43 PM PDT by I-ambush (One foot in the grave, one foot on the pedal I was born to rebel.)
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To: marshmallow

I think it’s higher that 30% — more like 50-55%.


9 posted on 05/22/2020 9:22:15 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow

I thought I was all alone!? There is hope after all!


10 posted on 05/22/2020 11:27:48 PM PDT by bantam
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To: marshmallow

Long road. It’s not just the pope but the system itself that installed the man— have his actions been out of step with who he was?


11 posted on 05/23/2020 2:25:51 AM PDT by steveyp
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To: marshmallow

I am against him. He is simply a criminal leftist who wants to control everyone.

JoMa


12 posted on 05/23/2020 4:01:41 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks.)
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To: marshmallow

Hey, the #1 anti Roman Catholic against his own pope posts daily articles against his church and pope right here on Free Republic.


13 posted on 05/23/2020 5:36:00 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: marshmallow

This faux Pope is simply more of the poison fruit foisted on the Church and the world by the Satan Council (VC-II, 1962-1965). The goal of the Satan Council was the destruction of the Church and the following link shows how much progress it had already made as far back as 2002:

https://www.olrl.org/misc/jones_stats.shtml

Read it and weep, or celebrate, depending on your point of view!


14 posted on 05/23/2020 5:46:33 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (No foreign enemy is more dangerous than the Democrat Party and those who support it.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat
...rewriting the Bible...

Just how was this done?

15 posted on 05/23/2020 7:16:27 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: tinyowl
If we assume that 90% of the church is against diddling kids, and you look at the success (not) they had battling that, how do we expect 30% to win a culture war against the Francis version of evil which is a far more slippery, less clearly manifest, incarnation of evil?

The problem has been the cover up by the leadership of Rome.

Then there are the Free Republic RCs who claim this is not about pedophilia.

16 posted on 05/23/2020 7:18:30 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Salvation; marshmallow

I wonder if it’s much smaller. If you’re in that milieu it seems more widespread. I’ve read that there are only 10,000 “traditional” Catholics in the USA (?). France, Spain, Brazil and USA are where “traditional” Catholicism is popular.


17 posted on 05/23/2020 12:40:21 PM PDT by Marchmain (safe, legal and wrong)
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To: Salvation; ebb tide

Never again do I want to hear Roman Catholics complain of “Roman Catholic bashing” when daily y’all wish for the downfall of the man y’all claim has the keys. The Reformers who died because of their criticism of Rome would be flabbergasted at y’all’s comments.


18 posted on 05/23/2020 1:57:42 PM PDT by ealgeone
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