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To: metmom

...Born again=Baptism “Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God”


4 posted on 09/23/2019 5:22:42 PM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: FreshPrince
Salvation by faith, not baptism.

John 3:3-8 Jesus answered him,“Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?” Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

John 3:14-18 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have eternal life. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

John 6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

John 11:25-26 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”

And right here, Peter tells us that salvation is NOT by WATER baptism.

1 Peter 3:18-22 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, because they formerly did not obey, when God's patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water.

Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers having been subjected to him.

If baptism saves, then Christ died for nothing.

All people would have to do is get dunked and they'd be good to go.

6 posted on 09/23/2019 6:56:53 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: FreshPrince
Born again=Baptism “Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God”

Exactly -

Jesus answered and said to him, “Amen, amen, I say to you, no one can see the kingdom of God without being born* from above.”

4Nicodemus said to him, “How can a person once grown old be born again? Surely he cannot reenter his mother’s womb and be born again, can he?”

5Jesus answered, “Amen, amen, I say to you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit.d
[5] "Unless a man be born again": By these words our Saviour hath declared the necessity of baptism; and by the word water it is evident that the application of it is necessary with the words. Matt. 28. 19. Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

The Greek word anothen used in this sentence can mean either ‘again’ or ‘from above’.

Nicodemus understands it as ‘again’, i.e. a physical rebirth to enter the kingdom.

Jesus instead calls for a spiritual rebirth ‘from above’.

The Greek expression always means ‘from above’ elsewhere in John as in 3:31; 19:11.

<3:31 He that cometh from above, is above all. He that is of the earth, of the earth he is, and of the earth he speaketh. He that cometh from heaven, is above all19:11 Jesus answered: Thou shouldst not have any power against me, unless it were given thee from above. Therefore, he that hath delivered me to thee, hath the greater sin

11 posted on 09/24/2019 1:19:15 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: FreshPrince
...Born again=Baptism “Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God”

So how is that??? Jesus said John the baptist baptized with water...And claimed He baptized with something that was not water...BTW, potato chips does not mean shoe polish any more than Baptize means water...

19 posted on 09/24/2019 5:55:47 AM PDT by Iscool
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