Posted on 06/23/2018 6:00:46 PM PDT by marshmallow
LEICESTER, United Kingdom - Baptizing babies is a violation of their human rights, according to the former president of Ireland.
Mary McAleese, who served in the largely ceremonial role of president from 1997-2011, also said she would not attend the Aug. 22-26 World Meeting of Families taking place in Dublin.
She told the Irish Times the event, which Pope Francis will attend Aug. 25-26, will only serve as a political rally for the reinforcement of orthodoxy.
McAleese told the newspaper that by baptizing children before they have reached the age of reason, the Church is creating infant conscripts who are held to lifelong obligations of obedience.
You cant impose, really, obligations on people who are only two weeks old and you cant say to them at seven or eight or 14 or 19 here is what you contracted, here is what you signed up to because the truth is they didnt, she said.
Declaring that in the past people didnt understand that they had the right to say no, the right to walk away, the former Irish president said we live now in times where we have the right to freedom of conscience, freedom of belief, freedom of opinion, freedom of religion and freedom to change religion. The Catholic Church yet has to fully embrace that thinking.
McAleese is a practicing Catholic who holds a licentiate in canon law from the Pontifical Gregorian University in Rome. Her book Quo Vadis? Collegiality in the Code of Canon Law was published in 2012.
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Jesus is Lord, not Mary McAleese.
What is her ruling on the cicumcision of Jewish and Muslim boys?
would Clinton or Comey lie?
22 Jun: RTE Ireland: ‘World at global tipping point’ - Clinton
By Sharon Tobin, Additional Reporting PA
Speaking to a packed to capacity lecture hall, it was speech directed at millennials, whom she said were “proving to be some of the most effective activists”...
Mrs Clinton said she had spoken to a lot of young people who were not just “discouraged by the policies of the Trump administration” but were “disgusted with politics and disenchanted with our democratic system”.
She said problems were made worse by an administration “set on waging war on the rule of law”...
Russian President Vladimir Putin was described as the “leader of an authoritarian, white supremacist and xenophobic movement that wants to break up the EU”.
Mrs Clinton’s visit coincides with a trip to Dublin by former FBI director James Comey, the man she effectively blames for torpedoing her presidential bid...
Speaking to RTÉ News, he said: “Our whole goal was to try and not to play a role in the elections, so I don’t think of it as an intervention in that way.
“I think we did our best to make principled decisions, not in the interest of either side.”
A demonstration was held at Trinity College today as Ms Clinton was awarded an Honorary Degree.
Around 50 protesters held signs that read “Lock her up” and “Clinton #BodyCount”.
They said her role in “promoting war” during her time as US Secretary State was reason enough to deny her the honour.
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/0622/972437-hillary-clinton-dublin/
But these same socialists want to conscript you into their programs and control every aspect of your life and not allow you to have the say so for anything.
If she really believes what she said, it would be a violation of human rights to kiss your baby, because the baby has not reached the age of reason and has not given verbal consent.
If she really believes her autonomous, voluntarist crap, it is a violation of human rights to bring a child into existence without the child's consent.
We are contingent, dependent, interpersonal beings. We were created by God and for God. I think that's the very thing she resents: that we are not God, but we belong to Him..
This is one of my favorite parts of Mass.
Baptizing babies doesn’t do anything but get their foreheads wet.
Mine too!!!
where’s this person been? certainly not on Rock Three or anywhere in our solar system
people have been walking away from the Church since it was created. this is especially visible right now with Ireland (of all places!?) going into the baby-murder/abortion business
"Dia shábháil ar fad anseo!" |
14 is too young to decide on faith, but old enough to have an abortion and lob their genitals or breasts clean off.
Baptizing a baby in Christ is a horrible imposition but sacrificing a baby to Moloch is a wonderful “right” everyone should celebrate.
She knows what it really is- a means of grace commanded by Christ himself through which God plants the seed of faith and strengthens any faith already present.
She knows there’s no lower limit, no one is too young to be baptised- she knows baptism works regardless of the receipient’s own intellect or reason because it is the grace of God at work, not a work of man.
That’s why the Marxists want to bar people from God as early as possible, long enough that the Marxists can get to them first and indoctrinate them, and that’s a tough task for them because it’s impossible to get an infant or child to read and absorb all that bull crap penned by pretentious socialist “intellectuals.”
So they operate on the principle of “if we can’t have access then Christ must not have them either.”
Very good catches. Poor Ireland.
I was taking "contract" as broadly as possible to be as generous as I could to the notion I was criticizing.
This is important in critical analysis. If I evaluated her arguments with only my own definition of her terms then how do I know if what I find objection to is not simply about using terms differently. Alas, I am not sure what she might have meant by "contract", but even in the broadest possible sense I could give it, there is no way I could see it applying until confirmation.
Shes an IDIOT.
Baptism is and was never an initiation to the Catholic Church. Its was done as a means of saving the soul - which is why youd want your newborn to be baptized.
CONFIRMATION is when you, as an adult, choose to become an active Christian in the church.
The existence of islam and sharia law are all violations of human rights. Christian baptizing of a baby is for the benefit of the parents, the child can confirm it or not when of the age to decide. Islam however, will never let go, islamics will kill you if you want to leave.
The State may become a member of the European Coal and Steel Community (established by Treaty signed at Paris on the 18th day of April, 1951), the European Economic Community (established by Treaty signed at Rome on the 25th day of March, 1957) and the European Atomic Energy Community (established by Treaty signed at Rome on the 25th day of March, 1957).They hand over their sovereignty to the real strangers here, to a foreign empire whose beginnings were planned way back in 1914 in Berlin. Was that what the rebels were fighting for? It does beg the question, since I was always taught that it was a struggle for independence, but to throw it away so lightly speaks to a different agenda.
No provision of this Constitution invalidates laws enacted, acts done or measures adopted by the State necessitated by the obligations of membership of the Communitiesor prevents laws enacted, acts done or measures adopted by the Communities, or institutions thereof, from having the force of law in the State. (emphasis mine)
Well DUH....that’s the whole point! Can’t have people choosing.
I don’t remember infant baptism in the Bible.
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