Posted on 12/30/2017 4:18:26 AM PST by JosephJames
Read the NT....you just might find it. Recommend you start with John and then Romams.
Won’t answer the question, huh?
Waiting on your answer to my question.
We had a similar journey. I was brought up in a loyal American Lutheran church but in 88 they merged with some other Lutheran synods and became totally apostate. One day as I drove by a Lutheran Church Missouri Synod, I went in the church and had a visit with the pastor and never went back to the ELCA. We’ve been in 3 LCMS churches and all 3 are preaching the true word of God. I found out that salvation is a GIFT from God. Good works are not needed—all that is needed is faith that Jesus did all the work for me. There is nothing in this world I have done that Jesus’ blood did not wipe away. I am forgiven. It’s so simple.
Guess John didn’t hear about the “sin of presumption”. Wonder how they managed to “pass” on down those things that’d contradict what they wrote.
How about when the church, as an organization, acts like a crime syndicate knowingly moving are predators, and when they finally get caught the empty the treasuries to pay off victims.
That is not a group that can convey anything from the Father Christ spoke of.
That is a group of evil animals.
And so profound. God bless your witness to Truth Lifelong LCMS here and my son will be ordained as an LCMS pastor this spring. My brother joined a local ELCA church. When the apostasy became too great the congregation voted to leave the synod.
I don’t think God did either.
I can’t find it mentioned anywhere in the Bible.
Maybe it’s under *mortal sins* or *venial sins* but I can’t find those classifications either.
Yes.
And I also believe in obeying the Ten Commandments, the forgiveness of sins and remaining in His Church, outside of which there is no salvation. And I believe that there are Christians, both Catholics and Protestants, who are in Hell.
I do not believe in the prejudged nonsense, however.
If you're thinking you have to keep the Ten, then you have to keep all of the OT Law.
There is no salvation outside of faith in Christ. Belonging to a church isn't what saves you. That's what John 5:24 is about.
Are you saying it is no longer necessary to keep God's Ten Commandments?
Do you have a Scripture reference that backs this up ebb??
Nope. But if you’re banking on keeping the Ten you’re about 604 short of keeping the Law. Keeping the Commamdments isn’t what saves you. See John 5:24 again.
and remaining in His Church, outside of which there is no salvation.
Do you have a Scripture reference that backs this up ebb??
:-)
It only depends on whether God said it or not...
In 41 years of reading the Scriptures, including 4 very intense seminary years, I’ve never seen such a passage.
A person CAN’T keep the Ten Commandments.
Asking if we have to is the wrong question because it is simply not possible for someone to keep all of them.
Should we try?
Sure.
Do we have to?
No.
Be a sinner and sin boldly
You continue to labor under the false notion I follow Luther. To be honest, I’d not read that much about him until these threads.
No.
Thanks, that's all I need to know about where you're coming from.
So God never intended for the Ten Commandments to be obeyed. It was all huff and fluff?
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