Colombian Professor Criticizes Pope Francis, Declared Excommunicated [Catholic Caucus]

One Peter Five ^ | July 31, 2017 | Maike HIckson

[Vaquero]

Francis needs to GO

[I want the USA back]

There is no acceptance at all of dissent within the Church. The pope is the supreme, and only authority.
Note that this priest was kicked out for saying: “the present pontiff’s election was the work of a political and corrupt mafia of cardinals”.
Note that the current pope has not yet condemned those who took part in the gay orgy at the Vatican, and he promoted the nuclear ‘deal’ with Iran.

[heterosupremacist]

Bergoglio again disgraces himself and the Papacy, while shaming over a billion of the laity... How long must this continue? Why have the faithful clergy chosen to not yet unify to defend the Church? We know nothing shall prevail against the Apostolic Church, but it still sickens me to witness such heresies!

[JerryBlackwell]

In Old Testament times God would have sent the Babylonians to sack the Temple and carry the people off to captivity. Would not want to be in Rome right now.

[married21]

Personally, I keep thinking/hoping the guy might be a short-termer, due to operating on only one lung.

The lack of information among the laity is a factor as well. Most of my Catholic friends just know the Pope from his charming soundbites, not the offensive ones.

[Dr. Sivana]

The pope is the supreme, and only authority.

No. The Pope is the Vicar of Christ, who is the ultimate of authority of the Church. He is charged with protecting Church Teaching, Dogma and Tradition.

While Pope is the earthly head of the Roman Catholic Church, his authority has restrictions on it. He is a monarch, but nowhere has the Church ever taught that he can contradict Church teaching, or the good of the Church.

A monsignor does NOT have the authority to declare a latae sententiae excommunication, which is best declared only for actions that are clear-cut rather than words (e.g. successfully procuring or helping to procure an abortion). If anyone were serious about this, the layman who would be excommunicated should have an opportunity to receive a formal charge, and respond to it. Latae sententiae is a lazy out, and should apply to every Catholic government official who has voted for abortion would be subject to it if it were that easy. (Of course, they may already be, and they are likely in a state of continuous mortal sin and cannot recieve Cmmunion anyway).

[heterosupremacist]

#6 married21 - " The lack of information among the laity is a factor as well". Agreed. The clergy must be held accountable for not speaking out against these unpleasant developments...

[livius]

That’s all true, but just a minor point: “monsignor” is a mis-translation of the Spanish or possibly Italian original, where monseñor is the title used when addressing or speaking about a bishop. So these are bishops, actually, the Colombian bishops’ conference, apparently.

That said, if they chose the latae sententiae route, essentially saying he has automatically excommunicated himself, that means that they didn’t want to do a formal excommunication, probably because they knew there simply weren’t grounds for it. Cowardly weasels, in other words.

[JudgemAll]

Francis the floozy calling others schism mongerers...

[piusv]

Why have the faithful clergy chosen to not yet unify to defend the Church?

By choosing not to do so, how are they "faithful clergy"? Whatever happened to the Dubia Three by the way?

[DPMD]

Interesting...excommunicated for words, while liberal politicians and quacks in the US who aggressively push, commit and fund child murder get a pass.

Nice going, Frank.

[Dr. Sivana]

“monsignor” is a mis-translation of the Spanish or possibly Italian original, where monseñor is the title used when addressing or speaking about a bishop.

Ah, I hadn't known the expression. I know that the French often referred to Archbishop Lefebvre as Monsignor, I hadn't known that mode was common in the Spanish/Italian-speaking world as well. Thanks for the gentle correction.

[ebb tide]

For what it’s worth, there is no “Bishop Pedro Mercado” listed on the Church Hierarchy website.

http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/llm2.html

[Dr. Sivana]

There are many who are Vicars of Christ. In the Roman Catholic Church the Pope is simply the senior Cardinal

The Pope is not necessarily a "senior Cardinal" or a Cardinal at all. He is accurately described as the "Bishop of Rome". As to the rest of your piece, I was addressing those who are Roman Catholic and accept the Catholic definition of things. Catholics do not accept there being more than one Vicar of Christ at a time.

[heterosupremacist]

By choosing not to do so, how are they "faithful clergy"? . You raise a valid point.

[RitaOK]

THANK you.

There had to be a difference between “obedience to a Holy Father” and being led to perdition!

Scripture is plain that Wolves will be among the Sheep and will lead many to perdition. Seems to me that what is obvious today is crystal clear in that scripture passage.

The Rome crowd seems to change nothing on paper, but fiddles with everything, in practice. This enables them to claim Tradition, officially, while in practice allowing deviant interpretation willy nilly.

[heterosupremacist]

ebb tide - For what it’s worth, there is no “Bishop Pedro Mercado” listed on the Church Hierarchy website.

http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/llm2.html

I don’t understand your comment, what is the significance of his non-inclusion in this list?

[ebb tide]

I was just pointing out that no bishop has yet been identified as issuing the declaration of “excommunication”.