Posted on 05/09/2017 3:59:28 PM PDT by Bogle
The apparitions of Our Lady at Fatima, between May 13 and October 13, 1917 were a time and place chosen by God. That very same year, 1917, the Russian Revolution began on March 8, triggered by Karl Marx’s ideas on communism. It was the first communist revolution in history and led to killing on a scale never seen before—over 9 million.
However, God responded at the other end of Europe. The Fatima apparitions began on May 13, 1917, during World War I (1914-1918).
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This needs to be a Catholic Caucus. I’m pinging the moderator.
Another significant anniversary for 2017.
From the article:
“Our Lady’s “Peace Plan”
Our Lady of Fatima asked us for a public and solemn act of the consecration of Russia to her Immaculate Heart, done by the Pope, in union with all the bishops of the world, to pray the rosary daily, and the practice of reparatory Communion on the first Saturdays of the month. Lucia, who became a cloistered nun, confirmed that after several attempts that did not follow Our Lady’s instructions, Russia, along with the world, was properly consecrated to the Immaculate Heart on March 25, 1984 by Pope Saint John Paul II.
The Fatima message told us explicitly that the alternative to penance is a terrifying punishment. The path to salvation was put before us. And if we do what Our Lady asks, she will fulfill her promise that: “In the end my Immaculate Heart would triumph.”
You are not the OP. You can’t designate the kind of thread it is. The OP needs to ping the Religion Mod, if he wishes to change it.
It doesn't say that on the Religion Moderator's home page.
I am so sorry. I didn’t mean to do anything misleading. I marked the topic as religious and Catholic and had no idea there was something else I was supposed to do. Please feel free to remove my post if it’s going to cause any kind of problem. I’ll try to keep things in a more political vein moving forward; and I promise not to take offense whatever you all decide to do.
Thanks.
From the article:
“According to Mattei, those in the light nourish themselves on the spirit of Fatima, while the spirit of darkness is manifested under communism, which has morphed into relativism.
“What is certain is that in the 20th century, there are no other crimes comparable to communism for the temporal space in which it spread, for the territories it embraced, for the quality of hate that it was able to secrete,” he said. “But these crimes are consequences of errors. After the collapse of the Soviet Union these errors were as if released from the wrapping that contained them, to propagate like ideological miasma over the entire West, under the form of cultural and moral relativism.”
“Today’s relativism is rooted in the theories of materialism and Marxist evolutionism, Mattei explained, and it denies any spiritual reality. The Fatima prophecy, in which Russia would scatter her errors throughout the world, has been fulfilled, he claimed. “Nowadays, one feels almost embarrassed to say they are anti-communist,” he said. “This is communism’s great victory: that it is has gone down without shedding a drop of blood, without being put on trial, without an ideological indictment, which would condemn its memory.”
There are many who argue that Russia has NOT been consecrated. The Pope(s) consecrated the “whole world”, rather than risk offending the Orthodox Church and specifically stating “Russia”. Just by looking at the ‘fruits’ of Russia (highest divorce rate, more abortions than births) and how socialism and moral relativism has spread throughout much or most of the western world, it seems as though they may have a valid arguement.
When you post, you are allowed to add a (catholic caucus) tag to the title, if you only wish member of that group to post.
That is what was discussed.
If you send a pm to the Religion Moderator, they may change it.
Hey Bogle, I asked the moderator to make it a Catholic Caucus because I was concerned that non-Catholics would start a fight about Mary, apparitions, etc. I assumed that you wanted a discussion of the article and not a fight about doctrine.
If that was wrong, just hit the Report Abuse button on your first post and ask them to undo it.
I didn’t mean to step on your toes; I’m just sick and tired of the fighting around here.
This is a meta-comment and not a response to the thread. You guys need to relax about restricting discussions to topics that involve the end times to Catholics only. The Blessed Virgin obviously went to a lot of trouble to get this word out. Remember when the Disciples rebuked the parents who wanted Jesus to bless their children?? Just saying.
Thank you so much for your follow-up. It clears things up. And I’m fine with it being labeled Catholic Caucus. And you’re exactly right—I wouldn’t want this to become a fight about doctrine.
His findings were that most people who "saw something," did indeed "see something" but could not adequately account for what they were seeing (e.g. the Sun could not have literally zig-zagged closer to the Earth, but a luminous celestial disc could definitely appear to do that.)
He also calculated that while each element of the many sky-phenomena could theoretically be explained by physical conditions (ice crystals in multi-layer stratus clouds, high-altitude sand blowing in from the Sahara, optical diffractions caused by temperature inversions, unusual vapor layers from gases carried aloft from volcanoes, whatever) -- for all of them to happen one after another in a rapid 10-to-15 minute sequence would be unprecedented, prodigiously mathematically unlikely.
The real and almost undeniable miracle, concluded Jaki, is that three almost-illiterate shepherd children, ages 7, 9, and 10, could have, a month in advance, predicted exactly the location, day, and time when it would happen, and proclaimed it unanimously and so confidently that they attracted 70,000 people to a muddy field in rural Portugal to witness something so awesome it put skeptics--- including resolute unbelievers --- trembling to their knees.
Agnostics, replicate that.
The miracle is not in the physics, the miracle is in the timing
A hundred year warning should be sufficient. The Kingdom of God is at hand.
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