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A heretic? John Paul II is well loved by all. In 1983, the 500th anniversary of the birth of Martin Luther, John Paul preached at the Lutheran congregation in Rome, praising the reformer’s piety and evangelical zeal.

So John Paul II went to his church and had good things to say about “a heretic”. This modern Luther hate is retarded. The church back then was in error and its leadership was deeply corrupted.
if it wasn’t Luther, someone else would have been the one to step up and stop the party.
The Church owes him a thanks.
Its idiotic to pretend the church back then was in the right and that Luther was wrong. And its just as idiotic for someone today to dislike the Catholic church of today for its mistakes of 500 years ago.


10 posted on 10/30/2016 10:57:59 AM PDT by DesertRhino (November 8, America's Brexit!!!)
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To: DesertRhino

“A heretic? John Paul II is well loved by all.”

Not all.

“In 1983, the 500th anniversary of the birth of Martin Luther, John Paul preached at the Lutheran congregation in Rome, praising the reformer’s piety and evangelical zeal.”

And there is one reason some do not love him.

“The church back then was in error”

That is incorrect.

“and its leadership was deeply corrupted.”

It does indeed appear that *some* of the mortal men who temporarily occupied positions in the eternal Church were abusing their authority.

The correct course of action was not to create a heresy and separate from the supernatural Bride of Christ.

“The Church owes him a thanks.”

Really? Do you suppose God thanks him for subjecting millions to spiritual impoverishment?

“Its idiotic to pretend the church back then was in the right and that Luther was wrong.”

And what is it to fail to separate the Church and its teachings from the abuses of mortal men? Luther was not only in the wrong, he was a wrong’un.

“And its just as idiotic for someone today to dislike the Catholic church of today for its mistakes of 500 years ago.”

Blaming the Church for selling indulgences is like saying that medical science should be abolished because doctors have been known to commit malpractice. We seem to have little trouble separating doctors’ job performance from the basic concept of medical treatment.


19 posted on 10/30/2016 2:31:22 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: DesertRhino

While Luther may have had some valid points in his original dissent, by his death he had fabricated a faith that was crafted to deal with his fears regarding his own soul. Even so, he certainly wouldn’t recognize what passes as “Lutheranism” today. His Pope would certainly have an easier time recognizing the Catholic faith today.


33 posted on 10/31/2016 7:12:51 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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