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"Church Chatter"
OSV.com ^ | for October 9, 2016 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 10/08/2016 10:06:04 AM PDT by Salvation

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**The problem of talking in church remains an annoyance for some but is also rooted in the trend in our culture toward extreme informality.**

Is this why people prefer the Tridentine Mass?

1 posted on 10/08/2016 10:06:04 AM PDT by Salvation
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2 posted on 10/08/2016 10:07:41 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

“Is this why people prefer the Tridentine Mass?”

~Or a new priest. At my last parish the new priest firmly and without any equivocation told people to be quiet in the sanctuary.

It worked. Offenders were given “the look” and took their conversations to the commons adjoining the sacred space.
Catching up with people you have not seen for a week is a charitable exercise, but interrupting people at quiet prayer is just plain rude.


3 posted on 10/08/2016 10:16:07 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Salvation

That’s part of it, but a big part of it is that the Tridentine mass is far more spiritually compelling than the current mass form. It is far richer and much more powerful. And it incorporates language that emphasizes the act and fact of transubstantiation in the Eucharistic prayers. The current form of the mass focuses on the Eucharistic ceremony as being near a “commemoration” only.

As an example they shortened a part of the prayer so it says today is “Do this in memory of me”. The tridentine versions had the prayer as: “As often as you do this in memory of me, you do it”. What is it you do? You invoke the transubstantiation.


4 posted on 10/08/2016 10:28:00 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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I’m looking for a parish where the celebrant does NOT

Ask birthday people to stand & then sings “Happy Birthday” which is concluded with applause.

Recognize parish choirs, sports teams & fish fry hosts with applause, in the sanctuary.

Ask those honored on Mothers’ or Fathers’ Day to stand. Hey Father, you’re not the only childless person here!

During the sign of peace walks up & down the main aisle slinging agape & handshakes left and right.

Before Mass begins, does his own five minute `sermonette’ outside the homily timeframe.

Before Mass, processes to the foot of the altar then turns around and booms, “Good Morning!!” and “How are you all today!?”

Geez......


5 posted on 10/08/2016 11:42:19 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: elcid1970

Oh, I left out celebrants who tell jokes with punchlines during the homily, provoking wild laughter in the sanctuary.


6 posted on 10/08/2016 11:43:42 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Salvation
Some churches solve this by having a separate space for talking and praying.

In some places the sanctuary is where you can pray before service and there is a large vestibule where you can talk.

Others solve this by having a designated prayer room leaving the sanctuary for those who socialize prior to service.

Both solutions have their points.

7 posted on 10/08/2016 11:52:20 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles!)
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To: Salvation
Before daily Mass there is a group that recites the Rosary. It does not disturb me in the least as I make the Stations.

However, idle chatter has no place in church, especially while other people are trying to pray.

8 posted on 10/08/2016 2:55:25 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (,)
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To: Salvation

I frequently go to confession on Saturday afternoons and about 1/3 of the time there is a wedding finishing up as I and my fellow travelers stand in line. The photos are being taken and people are talking in groups. It is what it is but last Saturday one woman in the back of the church called out to the bride who was still up at the altar getting her photo taken. I stepped up and told her that this was a church and we don’t yell in church. She was a bit taken back. Many times non-Catholics are at weddings and funerals and don’t really understand that at all times that the red candle is lit, it is a sanctuary and place of worship. Oh well.


9 posted on 10/08/2016 3:19:19 PM PDT by Mercat (French toilets are the weirdest I've seen yet.)
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