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Every religious group that did accept it waited until the state actually changed it’s law to accept it for themselves. All the groups had pretty much already split by that point, the libs took the old names, the conservative Christians formed new groups that haven’t accepted ‘gay marriage’. My point was that religious groups actually wouldn’t marry their own gays until the state agreed with them, so to them the state’s version is the actual version they go by.

“Now, since the family and human society at large spring from marriage, these men will on no account allow matrimony to be the subject of the jurisdiction of the Church. Nay, they endeavor to deprive it of all holiness, and so bring it within the contracted sphere of those rights which, having been instituted by man, are ruled and administered by the civil jurisprudence of the community. Wherefore it necessarily follows that they attribute all power over marriage to civil rulers, and allow none whatever to the Church; and, when the Church exercises any such power, they think that she acts either by favor of the civil authority or to its injury. Now is the time, they say, for the heads of the State to vindicate their rights unflinchingly, and to do their best to settle all that relates to marriage according as to them seems good.”

-—Pope Leo XIII, 1880, Arcanum (on Christian marriage)

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19 posted on 09/24/2016 5:49:51 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

I see. Thank you for you explanation.


20 posted on 09/24/2016 6:00:02 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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