Posted on 06/02/2016 8:12:50 AM PDT by ebb tide
The group has been given official permission to hold a public demonstration in the gardens of Castel Sant’Angelo.
Campaigners calling for women priests are meeting in Rome this week where they have launched a poster campaign drawing attention to their cause and where they will participate in their first ever official public demonstration.
Women’s Ordination Worldwide, which this year marks its 20th anniversary, wants to re-open dialogue in the Church in spite of Pope John Paul II’s ruling that the matter should not be discussed.
Despite the ruling, since 2002, around 150 women have been “ordained” and all of them have been excommunicated as a result.
Yesterday evening two of them had an unprecedented meeting with an official from the Vatican Secretariat of State who agreed to give a petition to the Pope calling for the excommunications to be lifted, and who, according to the women, listened to “our heartfelt plea for women priests in our Church”.
Female ordination is prohibited in the Catholic Church on the grounds that Christ chose only male disciples and only a male priest can act “in persona Christi” (in the person of Christ).
Fr Tony Flannery, the Irish Redemptorist priest who was suspended from public ministry by the Vatican due, in part, to his views in favour of female ordination, said the ‘in persona Christi’ argument was like suggesting the “earth is flat”.
Speaking during a panel discussion at the Casa Internazionale delle donne Fr Flannery stressed that women were able to represent the person of Christ.
Also speaking during the discussion today was Dr Marinella Perroni, a theologian at the Pontifical Athenaeum Regina Apostolorum (an educational institute of the Catholic Church) in Rome, who told the gathering that John Paul II’s edict had led to a “paralysis” and meant some professors had been denounced by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith for raising the topic.
She said that ordaining women could lead to “loss of unity” in the Church, but that it was equally unacceptable to have a “discipleship at two speeds”, where men have ministerial authority and women are not properly recognised.
The conference in Rome suggests a renewed confidence in discussing female ordination. Campaigners have been encouraged by Pope Francis’s recent remarks that he wanted to set up a commission to explore the question of women deacons.
For the first time the group has been given official permission to hold a public demonstration in the gardens of Castel Sant’Angelo on Friday, the day that the Pope celebrates a jubilee mass for priests in St Peter’s Square. Members of the women’s ordination group have also been given tickets to attend the Mass.
The pictures on the posters being put around Rome this week include 70 female ‘priests’ from the United States and Colombia photographed by Italian artist Giulia Bianchi as part of an ongoing project.
The gathering this week was organised by Kate McElwee, who is the first woman’s ordination campaigner to be permanently based in Rome.
All thinking Catholics will have to flee the church at some point soon.
Lesbians want a home in much the same way that the Catholic Church was haven to homosexuals that began decades ago and contributed, not as much as Vatican II however, to the decline.
This will give lesbians access to young flesh and this is the route to do it.
The RCC has descended into a secular humanist new religion and that trend will continue until the Second Coming, at which time those who tore the Church asunder will find a warm, but not too cozy, hereafter.
I am unsure about the theological arguments either way with regard to women priests. However, I so intensely dislike the type of nuns who would like to become priests, that I hope the Catholic Church keeps the priesthood all male. Also, when I see what has become of mainline Protestantism since women have been allowed to join the clergy, I see another reason to keep the plainclothes nun types in their place. (By the way, I am female.)
If you don’t like the rules, nail your objections to the door of the church and go make your own. Then you can later in life marry whomever you please, advocate ejecting the Jews from Europe and support polygamy.
If you don’t like the rules, nail your objections to the door of the church and go make your own. Then you can later in life marry whomever you please, advocate ejecting the Jews from Europe and support polygamy.
Another playing out of the time-honored modernist, dissenter tradition; when one's proposal is voted down, one simply tries again....and again.....and again....until finally, resistance crumbles one gets one's way.
Humble, docile acceptance of ecclesial authority is not an option.
There was a guy who did that a few years ago ... look what happened!
Sorry to burst her bubble, but Vatican II already accomplished said "loss of unity".
If they have women priests, three-fourths of them will be lezzies.
This is the worst Pope in many centuries. But he will be dead soon. He isn’t going to drive me out of the Church. He has gone from stupid to blasphemous.
In other words, it's like six day young earth creationism.
But still "conservative" Catholics defend evolution and higher criticism as Catholic distinctives (you know, like Mary) and accuse every creationist dissenter of "Protestantism."
I'm enjoying this! You all asked for it, and you're getting it!
And all those who still deny Christ is the Son of God deserve their final fate. Good-luck to you.
What good would being a chrstian do? He wasn't vicariously eternally damned in my place, establishing a legal loophole. In fact, chrstians (according to non-"fundies") must spend a lifetime walking a tightrope over hell and are probably going to go there anyway. And this is an improvement over the Torah . . . how???
Also, in any quarrel between the established and sure and the new, it's always best to stay with the established and sure.
Go argue with a tree or take it offline.
You attempt to disrupt any non-caucus Catholic thread you stumble across with your continuous lies that traditional Catholics deny Creationism.
I never see any "traditional Catholics" object to theistic evolutionist posts by their co-religionists.
It is obviously not a big deal to any Catholics on either side of the issue.
So, what will schism look like? The Cardinal of Bologna advises, or warns us, on the subject of Chapter 8, of AL, that all the confusion in it means that the faithful are to rely on “preceding” Magisterium.
The faithful are better off to rely entirely on antiquity and its centuries of clear Catholic teaching, retire to their prayers and devotions and the comfort of the Holy Spirit who set the Church militant in motion.
Ignoring the silly man brings peace of mind. I pity him, but his foolishness and pride have caricatured him, he has brought scandal to the faithful and embarrassed the Church.
Sadly, Milton Burle comes to mind.
I appreciate where are coming from. It’s a common reaction for protestants. I’ve been one. I get it.
But, Catholics are not protestants. We have suffered bad popes before, and we are collectively full of sinners all, but the Church is the Precious Body of Christ on earth and we are on a complicated pilgrimage struggling up the rocky road to the Cross, the same as our Christ Jesus.
In human terms, the Church faithful are not meant for escape from the same mockery He suffered, nor His pains, and certainly deserve no more comfort than He, neither emotional, physical, nor intellectual satisfaction on such a miserable journey.
As Peter said, “ Where, Lord, would we go?”.
Oh, it must be so great to be more enlightened than, say … JESUS CHRIST!
Dear ladies, you argument is not with the Church but with God.
Scandalous. What next? Perhaps the Episcopagans will be invited to hold their next convention in the Sistine Chapel.
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