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[metmom]Don't go moving the goalposts now. You asked for an example of Biblical Christianity, not a leader of Biblical Christianity.

My original question was to Gamecock: [SP]SO, this is a leader of the protestant version of Christianity?

Which you responded to me with: [metmom] SO, this is a leader of the protestant version of Christianity?

This is an example of where religion will land you.

What it's not an example of is true Biblical Christianity.

This person is not a Christ follower, which is clear for anyone famil8iar with Scripture.

Which one of us is moving goalposts?

What kind of gotcha are you after, BTW?

There's noooo gotcha. I'm trying to nail down what exactly you and people like you think is real "Christianity".

In all honesty, you and all that like you are totally baffling to me.

And I think I've figured it out. No snarkiness intended. Seriously. I'm typing this completely dead pan. Maybe an occasional "Mr. Spock eyebrow"...

All the people posting all these religious posts, believe in their own concept of Jesus. But not Jesus the person. They follow that concept, but not the real thing.

Christ followers do not follow men. Religious people follow men.

This is what I'm talking about. Jesus Himself commanded that those that follow Him were to follow His chosen leaders. Jesus has even laid down the law in Luke 13 and said it is for this very reason, not following his chosen servants that the vast majority of so called believers would be cast out at the last day.

Revelation 11 talks explicitly about two of His leaders. He showed these two to John because these would be killed in Jerusalem just before the second coming of Christ as a sign.

In Luke 13 Jesus states that He will show to all those "believers" that are being cast out all the prophets that they rejected. And it will be such a shock that they will weep and gnash teeth.

By your own words metmom, you won't follow any man. So where does that leave you at the last day?

Jesus Himself commanded that those that follow Him were to follow His chosen leaders.

In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.

1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University) http://www.lds.org/liahona/1981/06/fourteen-fundamentals-in-following-the-prophet?lang=eng

Jesus Himself commanded that those that follow Him were to follow His chosen leaders.

It looks like Mormonism is going to have a LOT of explaining to do...

The question is, do i believe Joesph Smith to have been a false Prophet?

Do ANY of you "damned " SLC mormons reading this, who has gotten any information from your church, that old B.Y. was:

1. Speaking the very words of GOD

2. Drunk

3. On peyote

4. REALLY upset at SOMEone

5. Or just running his mouth as a man: a mere mortal, prone to the slings and arrows that beset us all or do you

6. just accept the FACT that you are, truly, damned for not following your Scripture found in D&C 132:58-66?

All the people posting all these religious posts, believe in their own concept of Jesus. But not Jesus the person. They follow that concept, but not the real thing.

How do you know what Jesus they believe in? Did they tell you? Did you do a survey and ask them?

So prove your point that everyone believes in their own version of Jesus. Show us the post numbers. Back up your claim.

But the Mormon Jesus fits that description and it's in writing for all to see.

You know, not the one found in Scripture who is God with us, virgin born.

The Mormon Jesus is not God come in the flesh, but rather the half brother of Satan being born of Mary after she and God had sex.

That Mormon Jesus is *NOT* the Jesus of the Bible.