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Bill Johnson;Experience Based Spirituality...Charismatic Post Mortem
https://billrandles.wordpress.com/2016/04/24/experienced-based-christianity-charismatic-post-mortem-pt-9/ ^ | 04-22-16 | Bill Randles

Posted on 04/23/2016 5:12:00 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles

What do you get as a by-product of the previous fifty years of Apostasy as developed in the Charismatic World? You get Bill Johnson, Bethel Church and the Jesus Culture band!

The following is a chapter from my recently revised book, BewareThe New Prophets-a Caution regarding the Prophetic Movement. .

Chapter 8 Experienced Based Christianity

What would you think of a Bible school that sends young people out to literally prostrate themselves on the graves of deceased preachers so that the students can absorb “the anointing” that lingers on the graves? What about a church in which a mist con- taining feathers, gold, and jewel dust descends on the worshippers in the sanctuary? How about a church conference which features prophetic “tattoo readings” as one of the workshops?

What would you expect of a church which is a combination of the Word of Faith error and the prosperity gospel of Kenneth Copeland and Kenneth Hagin, the signs and wonders of Oral Rob- erts and Benny Hinn, the false assumptions of the spiritual warfare and hyper-deliverance movement, the “prophetic movement” I have been describing in this book, and the gnostic mysticism of the Toronto Blessing?

You don’t have to wonder any longer for there is such a “min- istry” which is currently the most recognizable and influential face of the prophetic movement. I refer to Bill and Beni Johnson who co-pastor Bethel Assembly of Redding California and its related ministries, including “Jesus Culture” youth band and Bethel’s School of Supernatural Ministry.

Bill Johnson, a noted conference speaker and leader, is the author of several best-selling books and considered to be an apostle and leader within the Apostles and Prophets movement. Hundreds of thousands have been affected by his ministry and have attended retreats and conferences where they have been “imparted” with “the anointing.”

In order to fully understand the prophetic movement in its current state, we must examine the teachings and ministry of Bill Johnson in the light of the Word of God. Didn’t Jesus warn us not to be naïve but that “every tree is known by its fruits”?

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.(Matthew7:15-20)

The primary “fruit” of any professed prophet would be the teaching. (The same would go for any pastor or apostle or anyone who stands in the name of God).

Let’s examine some of Bill Johnson’s teachings.

The Word of Faith Movement

It doesn’t take long to see by reading his books that Johnson is a proponent of the Word of Faith teaching, popularized by Kenneth Hagin and Kenneth Copeland. Therefore, it is necessary to give a brief overview of WOF teaching to be able to see where Johnson is coming from.

In a nutshell, the WOF teaching is based on a gnostic inter- pretation of the Fall and of redemption. The following is their explanation:

When God created Adam, He gave him all dominion over the earth, to rule and reign as God’s regent. However when Adam fell, by obeying Satan, he handed that God-given dominion over to Satan, who became the “god of this world.” God, the Father, couldn’t just come in and take the dominion back—Adam had given it away.

God had to find a way for a man to come in, as a man, and undo the folly of Adam, gaining back the authority given to Satan by Adam. Jesus is that man. (The WOF teachers do acknowledge that Jesus is God but believe that He “laid aside His own Divinity” in the Incarnation).

As a man, Jesus came into the world, resisted all of the temp- tation that Adam and Eve and the human race succumbed to, and died on the Cross as a sacrifice for our sins.

But there is a twist, for the WOF teachers insist that salvation wasn’t secured for man in Jesus’ death on the Cross as a substitute for our sins. Rather, Jesus first had to descend into hell and suffer the torment of Satan and his minions until God was satisfied that it was enough and could legally raise Him from the dead.

Of course, the Word of God says that Jesus’ death on the Cross was sufficient, and that when He said, “Telestai!” (It is done), it really was done. But Copeland and Hagin teach that it wasn’t fin- ished until Jesus had literally “become sin” and endured demonic torment in hell.

The fall, according to WOF, was as much about the loss of power and authority as it was about sin and alienation from God. Therefore salvation is about restoration of power and authority, as well as forgiveness of sins. We get the power back and can now exercise dominion over this life and take authority over evil.

Because of this skewed view, WOF is a power religion. This is why WOF Christians frequently speak in terms of authority; they “bind and/or loose” angels and demons; they decree, rebuke, and otherwise speak in terms of “releasing” peace, grace, or mercy into this situation or that.

The essence of this theology is the restoration and practical use of the “authority to the believer.”

The ideal in WOF circles is that of the born again man of power and authority, the miracle man who has come in to the “revelation knowledge” of “who he is in Christ,” and demonstrates the power of “the anointing” to a lost world. There have developed extensive mythologies around truly historical figures such as Smith Wigglesworth, John Alexander Dowie, John G. Lake, and William Branham. These are the men who really “took authority,” they say, and showed us all what any believer could do, if they have but the faith and “anointing” to do so!

The WOF is an offshoot of an earlier expression of these very ideals, the Manifested Sons of God, once repudiated by the Assem- blies of God in the 1940s but now widely embraced in this new form. MSG is based upon an erroneous interpretation of Romans 8:19, “For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.”

Traditional Christianity has held that this verse refers to what happens at the bodily coming of the Lord. When Jesus returns, the curse on Creation will finally be removed, and the true children of God will be manifested.

But the MSG teach that this verse means that the Creation is waiting for the church to attain to the knowledge of the power and authority, in order to “manifest” our Sonship to the world, through signs and wonders. All of this must occur before Jesus can come back!

This is the context in which to understand where Bill Johnson, Jesus Culture, and the Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry are coming from, as they seek to bring the church into the power and anointing of their “mystical revival.”

Three of Bill Johnson’s Teachings

Johnson’s teaching goes errant on so many levels that it is hard to decide where to begin. For the sake of brevity, I will address three areas of concern: a) Johnson’s teachings on the Incarnation; b) the anointing (Holy Ghost); and c) and his theology of experience. I urge you to be the judge according to the test in Deuteronomy 13.

In his teaching on the Incarnation, Bill Johnson states, and rightly so, that Jesus Christ is God. But Johnson also emphasizes to an unbiblical extreme that Jesus completely laid aside His deity:

Jesus had no ability to heal the sick. He couldn’t cast out devils, and He had no ability to raise the dead. He said of Himself in John 5:19, “the Son can do nothing of Himself.” He had set aside His divinity. He did miracles as man in right relationship with God because He was setting forth a model for us, something for us to follow. If He did miracles as God, we would all be extremely impressed, but we would have no compulsion to emulate Him. But when we see that God has commissioned us to do what Jesus did- and more- Then we realize that He put self-imposed restrictions on Himself to show us that we could do it, too. Jesus so emptied Himself that He was incapable of doing what was required of Him by The Father-without the Father’s help.1 There are several problems with this teaching of Johnson’s. For example, it is theologically inaccurate to say that “Jesus had no ability . . .” and that Jesus “set aside His Divinity.” It is danger- ously close to being a denial of the Deity of Christ, for divinity by definition cannot be “set aside” nor could God ever be said to lack ability in any sense.

In the Incarnation, the eternal God became a man, though He never ceased being God. He always had all power, but restrained Himself, declining the prerogatives of power and majesty, which are inherent to Him, that He might live and die for us as true man.

Another problem with this is that Johnson asserts that Jesus performed miracles to “set forth a model for us . . . to show us that we could do it (the miracles) too . . .”

This is at the very heart of the Word of Faith teaching from which Johnson has emerged. Supposedly, we as individual believers, can and should be doing all of the miracles of Jesus, in the power of the Spirit. To Johnson, Jesus came in the flesh, partly to show us, that we too could do what He did!

This quest for miracle power is misguided and has led many into deception. Jesus didn’t do His miracles to “show us that we can do it.” The miracles of Jesus are manifestations of the merciful God, whether they be the ones in the Gospels, or in the Book of Acts, or those done in His name throughout the world today. “These signs will follow those that believe.” We are not to seek them. It is only a “wicked and adulterous generation (which) seeks after signs.”

Johnson actually posits that any believer has the potential to experience most of what Jesus experienced in the Gospels, even the Transfiguration! He states:

Most all of the experiences of Jesus recorded in Scripture were prophetic examples of the realms in God that are made available to the believer. The Mount of Transfiguration raised the bar significantly on potential human experience…The overwhelming lesson in this story is that Jesus Christ, the Son of man, had the glory of God upon Him. Jesus’s face shone with God’s glory, similar to Moses’s after he came down from the mountain.2

Johnson seems to fail to appreciate that though Jesus became “as one of us” in the Incarnation, His uniqueness cannot be safely diminished. Imagine a spirituality spent seeking to attain a transfig- uration! No wonder Johnson’s students go to such lengths seeking “glory”experiences.

The second aspect of Johnson’s teaching that is dangerous and has led to the reckless mysticism in which so many associated with Bethel are involved is what he teaches about the Holy Spirit, particularly “the anointing.” Johnson states:

Christ is not Jesus’ last name. The word Christ means “Anointed One” or “Messiah . . . [Christ] is a title that points to an experience. It was not sufficient that Jesus be sent from heaven to earth with a title. He had to receive the anointing in an experience to accomplish what the Father desired.3

First of all, here is an example of a teacher setting forth an unbiblical separation between the person “Jesus” and the word “Christ.” This is a very dangerous thing to do; it is similar to what the New Age movement claims, and it is being done towards a similar end.

New Agers want to establish the (false) idea that Jesus was merely an enlightened person, one who was anointed (Christed) at thirty years old, very similar to other remarkable human beings such as Ghandi and Zoroaster. This “anointing” is a self-realizing experience.

Johnson seems to be trying to establish that just as the man Jesus had to be anointed with the Holy Ghost in order (as a man) to do the miracles He did, we too can have the same experience to do the same thing, for Jesus is our model.

The Bible doesn’t do this with the word “Christ.” The apostles never relegated Christ as being a title, nor as being an experience. Christ is a designation of Jesus’ deity. Scripture insists that Jesus is the Christ, and it refers to Jesus as Christ, “God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself . . .” Christ is an eternal person, chosen of God, thus anointed with the Holy Ghost.

When Jesus came into the world, He already was Christ; he never had to become Christ.

On the same subject—the “anointing”—Johnson continues:

The word anointing means “to smear.” The Holy Spirit is the oil of God that was smeared all over Jesus at His water baptism. The name Jesus Christ implies that Jesus is the One smeared with the Holy Spirit.The outpouring of the Spirit also needed to happen to Jesus for Him to be fully qualified. This was His quest. Receiving this anointing qualified Him to be called the Christ, which means “anointed one.” Without the experience [the anointing] there could be no title.4

Do you see the problems Johnson’s teachings on “the anoint- ing” raise?

For example, did Jesus become the Christ at His baptism? If “Christ” is only valid upon an experience, what was Jesus before the Holy Ghost came upon Him in the Jordan? Was He merely an unqualified “man with a title” up until then?

Johnson’s view on the Christ is strikingly reminiscent of an error which emerged early in the history of the church and was repudiated as heresy. It is called adoptionism. It holds that Jesus was a devout man who did not become “Christed” until He was thirty years old when He was anointed of the Holy Ghost. It was by the Holy Ghost that He did His miracles, but the “anointing” left Him when He died on the Cross. If Jesus could do these things (through revelation knowledge and the anointing), so could any other believer.

There is a passage in 1 John 5 that refutes this very error about the Christ:

This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.(1 John 5:6)

The heretics were teaching that Jesus was not Christ until He was baptized in water and anointed with the Spirit. He remained Christ until He shed His blood. But the apostle insists that “He came by water and blood;” that is, He was already Christ when He was baptized and remained so on the Cross, and through His resurrection. The designation, “Christ,” was and is more than an experience; it is inherent to Jesus, the Divine God/man.

Finally, Bethel is actually dangerous in its approach to doctrine and experience.

What is it in the teachings that has opened those exposed to it, to such practices as:

False Prophecy? Visualization? “Fire Tunnels”? Grave Soaking trips?5 Visualization, contemplative prayer and meditation practices? Chanting, Soaking, and Spiritual Drunkenness? “Toking” the Holy Ghost to get High on Jesus? In addition to “normal” prophetic words, those who attended Bethel’s “Power and Love Conference” in February 2014 received readings based on their tattoos and piercings. Doug Addison can interpret the hidden messages on your body and even train you to do the same. You don’t even have to fly to where he is; for the reasonable fee of $150, he can tickle your ears over the phone for thirty minutes.6

Believe me when I say I have just scratched the surface of the irrational, unbiblical, and even anti-biblical practices of Bill John- son’s influential ministry. How do confessing Christians become so open and undiscerning?

There is one aspect of Bethel that is perhaps the most dan- gerous. Johnson, like so many Pentecostals and evangelicals who have preceded him, has a strong anti-doctrinal emphasis. To the neo-mystics of the New Apostolic Reformation, doctrine has a deadening effect and is valid only to the extent that it induces experience. Doctrine is “the letter which kills,” and leads to “head knowledge,” as opposed to the personal experience of God, based upon individual revelation.

Those who insist on adherence to true doctrine are caricatured as Pharisees.There are familiar clichés in these circles such as “God is offending the mind to reach the heart,” and “a man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with a doctrine.” These kinds of preachers often delight in saying, “I am going to upend your theology now . . .” as they unveil the latest nugget of ther own revelation.

Jesus made a frightening statement regarding those who hold to Bible Study vs. experience, “You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life, and these are they which testify of me” (John 5:39). If our study of the Bible doesn’t lead us to a deeper relationship (an encounter) with God, then it is simply adding to our tendency towards spiritual pride. We increase our knowledge of the Bible to feel good about our standing with God, and to better equip us to argue with those who disagree with us. Any group wanting to defend a doctrine is prone to this temptation without a God encounter . . . Jesus did not say ‘My sheep will know my Book”, it is his voice that we are to know.7

Johnson is deconstructing those who seek scriptural knowledge as being in danger of “spiritual pride”, increasing in knowledge in order to “feel good about their standing with God,” and to be better able to win arguments with those who disagree with them! What a pastor! It is almost as if he would discourage the desire to grow in scriptural knowledge!

But on the other hand, it is the ones seeking “deeper knowl- edge” (than that which Scripture reveals?) and a deeper encounter with God (experience) whom Johnson considers to be blessed. Imagine a young person sitting under a steady diet of this and you will see why Bethel, Jesus Culture, and the School of Supernatural Ministry are given over to the most sensual mysticism!

Chapter 8 footnotes

1 The Supernatural Power of a Transformed Mind, Destiny Image Pub- lishers, first edition, January 1, 2005, pg. 50 2 Bill Johnson, Face to Face with God, 2007, Charisma House, Lake Mary, FL., pg. 200

3 Bill Johnson, When Heaven Invades Earth, Destiny Image Publish- ers, 2005, pg. 87 4 Ibid. 5 http://beyondgrace.blogspot.com/2011/07/bill-johnson-and- john-crowders-leaven.html; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L- rHPTs8cLls https://www.facebook.com/photo.

6 http://gospelliving.blogspot.com/2013/04/why-jesus-culture- bethel-church-and_15.html 7 Johnson, When Heaven Invades Earth, pg. 93)


TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: apostasy; bethel; billjohnson; christians; endtimes

1 posted on 04/23/2016 5:12:01 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
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To: pastorbillrandles
RIP

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Johnson_%28skier%29

2 posted on 04/23/2016 5:17:39 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Live Free or Die.)
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To: Paladin2

What does RIP mean?


3 posted on 04/23/2016 5:24:42 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles (ore and rebuild Jerusalem)
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To: pastorbillrandles
Rest In Peace....

It's old skool...

4 posted on 04/23/2016 5:25:55 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Live Free or Die.)
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To: pastorbillrandles

Like on tombstones or at funerals. You do funerals don’t you?


5 posted on 04/23/2016 5:28:17 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: johniegrad

that was my first thought but then I thought it was perhaps an acronym like BTT- thanks


6 posted on 04/23/2016 5:35:35 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles (ore and rebuild Jerusalem)
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To: pastorbillrandles; metmom; ealgeone; MHGinTN; Syncro

Ping


7 posted on 04/23/2016 5:43:58 PM PDT by Mark17 (I traded my shackles for a glorious song. I'm free, praise the Lord, free at last.)
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To: Mark17

In John’s Gospel account, the seekers after signs were the ones Jesus turn off with His deepest spiritual lesson on the Manna, chapter six.


8 posted on 04/23/2016 6:50:23 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: Mark17; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; dragonblustar; Dutchboy88; ..
This is why WOF Christians frequently speak in terms of authority; they “bind and/or loose” angels and demons; they decree, rebuke, and otherwise speak in terms of “releasing” peace, grace, or mercy into this situation or that.

I know people who do that all the time and you know what?

NOTHING ever changes.

9 posted on 04/23/2016 7:23:13 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: pastorbillrandles

Wow that is a lot of stuff to read. I hope you got permission from the author to post that much of his book. ;-)

I noticed you had to read Johnson’s book in order to do your expose. That has to be difficult. Just reading your thread gave me a kind of cynical dirty feeling in that it appears that all these cults interject just enough truth to snare someone into their false religion. It makes it difficult to sift the wheat from the chaff and if you are not well grounded in the word and in sound doctrine, some of the mystical gobbledygook could draw you in.

The WOF movement is a tempting alternative to sound doctrine. People think they can become like God and change the world by just speaking their own world into existence.

Thanks for an interesting post. When are you going to put your book on Kindle or audible? I like to read in my car with the text to speech option. I spend about 3 hours a day in my car. I get through about 2-3 books a week sometimes.


10 posted on 04/24/2016 12:42:26 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: pastorbillrandles; StormPrepper; Normandy; teppe
Bill Johnson;Experience Based Spirituality...Charismatic Post Mortem

Mormon 'proof' of truth.


http://en.fairmormon.org/Holy_Ghost/Burning_in_the_bosom
 
 The united witness of mind and heart is key in LDS doctrine.
 


Hold this thought.

11 posted on 04/24/2016 3:56:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: P-Marlowe
...these cults interject just enough truth to snare someone into their false religion.

Ya think??


The JST; 'explained'...
 
https://rsc.byu.edu/archived/joseph-smith-translation-restoration-plain-and-precious-things/2-joseph-smith-s-translation
 
 
 
 
 The united witness of mind and heart is key in LDS doctrine.
 
 

12 posted on 04/24/2016 4:00:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: P-Marlowe
It makes it difficult to sift the wheat from the chaff and if you are not well grounded in the word and in sound doctrine, some of the mystical gobbledygook could draw you in.



13 posted on 04/24/2016 4:03:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: pastorbillrandles
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Ye shall know them by their fruits.





A fifth verse to a hymn called The Reformation

 

This was printed in the Deseret News on 26 Nov 1856.

Now sisters, list to what I say
With trials this world is rife,
You can’t expect to miss them all,
Help husband get a wife!

Now, this advice I freely give,
If exalted you would be,
Remember that your husband must
Be blessed with more than thee.

Then, O, let us say,
God bless the wife that strives
And aids her husband all she can
T’ obtain a dozen wives.

Sources: Paul H. Peterson, “The Mormon Reformation of 1856-1857: The Rhetoric and the Reality,” Journal of Mormon History 15 (Spring 1989): 59-87 accessible at

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/23286149?uid=2&uid=4&sid=21104030392601

 

Original text of the hymn, printed in the Deseret News:    http://udn.lib.utah.edu/cdm/ref/collection/deseretnews1/id/5903

 

14 posted on 04/24/2016 4:08:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: P-Marlowe

I am trying to get it on Kindle, but have had technical difficulties, I am a technical moron!


15 posted on 04/24/2016 6:17:57 AM PDT by pastorbillrandles (ore and rebuild Jerusalem)
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To: pastorbillrandles
... I am a technical moron!

Most of us have been there; at one time or another.

16 posted on 04/24/2016 12:38:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
I know people who do that all the time and you know what? NOTHING ever changes.

I always wondered about that. Their powers of "binding" Satan sure don't work very well seeing as they have to keep doing it and that dude keeps slipping out. You'd think it might finally occur to them they might be getting something wrong. ;o)

17 posted on 04/24/2016 2:51:30 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

I know some women who listened to one of these preachers who begged for money and called it *seed money* and sent them money thinking that it was sowing for something they wanted and NOTHING ever materialized.

They were really confused about why. I mean, after all, the guy PROMISED.

Doesn’t seem to occur to them that these guys are lying, false prophets, etc. They just swallow everything - hook, line, and sinker. It’s sad, really, to see people so focused on the material and so greedy.


18 posted on 04/24/2016 3:19:55 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Elsie; pastorbillrandles
Most of us have been there; at one time or another.

BEEN there?

You mean some people have gotten out?

19 posted on 04/24/2016 3:48:57 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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