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1 posted on 04/08/2016 5:21:25 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

My policy re: Pope Francis, right now:

1) Take some aspirin.
2) Pray for his soul.
3) Pray for those under his charge (especially those at risk of being led astray).
4) Avoid as much of his writing as I can.
5) Hide under the bed and pray to the Holy Spirit to send a replacement pope A.S.A.P.


2 posted on 04/08/2016 5:33:34 AM PDT by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: ebb tide; FatherofFive

Sede Vacante
Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few; Let another take his office.


3 posted on 04/08/2016 5:45:43 AM PDT by verga (Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.)
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To: ebb tide
From Ann Barnhardt:

Confirmed: Amoris Laetitia Means, “The Joy of Sodomy”

4 posted on 04/08/2016 5:48:52 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Bernie Sanders plans short hiatus from New York campaign trail to speak at the Vatican

The Eveready heretic, Bergoglio, just keep going, going and going...

5 posted on 04/08/2016 5:49:44 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

This Pope just can’t seem to help himself - he has to tell the world his opinions. Why is he the Pope? Does he want to run for head of the UN? Tell him to try politics and get out of the Vatican.


6 posted on 04/08/2016 5:55:25 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: ebb tide; Salvation; NYer

well he’s not the first anti pope we’ve had. So how did we deal with the others in the past?


9 posted on 04/08/2016 6:06:58 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: ebb tide
This is a very long read, and not very direct, but I can assume this Pope did something globalist/Elitist/Pro-gay/Communist.

Ergo, FUPF.

14 posted on 04/08/2016 6:35:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz (When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.)
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To: ebb tide
Yesterday I posted a thread in which the Bishop of Warsaw noted the lack of mention of John Paul II's document Familiaris Consortio in the two synods. That was for good reason; this entire process has been an attempt to make an end run around that apostolic exhortation.

When one reads the below excerpt, it's clear why.

"Familiaris Consortio, #84

However, the church reaffirms her practice, which is based upon sacred scripture, of not admitting to eucharistic communion divorced persons who have remarried. They are unable to be admitted thereto from the fact that their state and condition of life objectively contradict that union of love between Christ and the church which is signified and effected by the eucharist. Besides this there is another special pastoral reason: If these people were admitted to the eucharist the faithful would be led into error and confusion regarding the church's teaching about the indissolubility of marriage.

Reconciliation in the sacrament of penance, which would open the way to the eucharist, can only be granted to those who, repenting of having broken the sign of the convenant and of fidelity to Christ, are sincerely ready to undertake a way of life that is no longer in contradiction to the indissolubility of marriage.

This means, in practice, that when, for serious reasons such as, for example, the children's upbringing, a man and a woman cannot satisfy the obligation to separate, they "take on themselves the duty to live in complete continence, that is, by abstinence from the acts proper to married couples."[180]

Similarly, the respect due to the sacrament of matrimony, to the couples themselves and their families, and also to the community of the faithful forbids any pastor for whatever reason or pretext, even of a pastoral nature, to perform ceremonies of any kind for divorced people who remarry. Such ceremonies would give the impression of the celebration of a new, sacramentally valid marriage and would thus lead people into error concerning the indissolubility of a validly contracted marriage.

15 posted on 04/08/2016 6:38:22 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: ebb tide

Catholicism has way too much man made theology.

Divorce is clearly explained in God’s word when it’s not a considered a sin.

Divorcees otherwise are guilty of sin and therefore in need of redemption JUST LIKE EVERYONE.

That redemption requires one to be born again, forgiven with the blood of Christ, made new with desire to follow and obey God’s word henceforth, best proclaimed with public testimony and baptism.

Then continue to apply God’s word.

A believer should not be yoked to unbeliever according to God’s word. If a believer knowingly marries or remarries an unbeliever, then continued participation in the Church should not be allowed. If unbelievers are married, when one spouse comes to Christ, they should remain yoked to the unbeliever.

Is there further redemption? Only God can know the heart. A serious heart change is required, evident-ed in actions and word as discerned. An example could be, after a time, public confession by the born again believer to the church body combined with the yoked unbeliever’s public testimony and acceptance of Christ.


17 posted on 04/08/2016 8:03:11 AM PDT by reviled downesdad (Some of the blind will never believe the Truth.)
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To: ebb tide
Taken together, we see that the pope is claiming that “remarried” couples who have children should continue to live as “husband” and “wife” and should not live “as brother and sister” and that all “irregular” relationships which are not in accordance with God’s laws do not, in his estimation, necessarily mean that persons in such situations are living in a state of sin. Thereby, the pope also indirectly opens the door to the admittance of all these persons to the sacraments, and, at the same time, undermines not just one, but three sacraments: the Sacrament of Marriage, the Sacrament of Penance, and the Sacrament of the Holy Eucharist.

I think that you totally misinterpret that entire scenario. He changed NOTHING and opened no doors to remarried divorced Catholics to receive the sacraments thereby endangering no rules pertaining to their reception. He undermined NOTHING and I thought, left no room for doubt that he couldn't even if he wanted to which he didn't.

23 posted on 04/08/2016 2:46:01 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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