Posted on 04/01/2016 12:41:08 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
I am letting you be among the first to know. It is true. I am leaving the Catholic Church. I want you to know that this has not been a decision made in haste or without serious and intense research and consideration. But I can no longer remain in a church that I no longer believe in.
Let me explain.
I will be writing more about this soon, but for now let me just say there are five main reasons why I am leaving the Catholic Church:
1. I believe the sole rule of faith for Christians has to be Scripture. The Holy Bible is the only unchanging and definitive word of God that a Christian can build his or her life upon. Everything else, including the Catholic claims to authority, in the end, amount to ever-changing and ultimately sinking sand.
2. I believe works or any sense of salvific cooperation with Gods grace as constitutive to a Christians eternal life is unbiblical. not of works (cf. Eph. 2:8-9) means not of works.
3. The idea of Mary and the saints being involved in the salvation of a Christian is tantamount to a denial of the sufficiency of Christs redeeming work on Calvarys cross.
4. #3 can also be said of Purgatory, the sacrifice of the Mass, the Catholic view of salvation/justification, and more. These and more of the elements of Catholic teaching result in a denial of the sufficiency of the sacrifice of Christ. More to follow in a more detailed post.
5. What Catholics call the veneration of Mary and the saints is actually idolatry.
These are just for starters here. Many of you know that for the last 28 years I have defended the above teachings and more from the Catholic Church. I can no longer do so in clear conscience.
And by the way, just so you know
April fools!
And they were wrong about the title of *Father* so we should believe them just why about other things?
Call no man father
Matthew 23:1-12 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat, so do and observe whatever they tell you, but not the works they do. For they preach, but do not practice.
They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on people's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to move them with their finger. They do all their deeds to be seen by others. For they make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long, and they love the place of honor at feasts and the best seats in the synagogues and greetings in the marketplaces and being called rabbi by others.
But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ. The greatest among you shall be your servant. Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
Where in that scripture (or for that matter, ANY scripture) does it say that a man, elected by fallible men, will have the ability to declare something perfectly and infallibly? And please, do not try the old canard of, "well, no where in the Bible is "Trinity" mentioned, but we believe that...." The Trinity is CLEAR in the Bible.
However -- there is NOTHING, clear or inferred, in the Bible for purgatory, papacy, papal infallibility, Mariolatry, the "immaculate conception" and assumption of Mary....Scripture is SILENT.
Silence does NOT provide license to assume. Yet that is exactly the way the RCC operates.
So... again, WHERE does it say ANYTHING about papal infallibility in Scripture?
Hoss
the catholic encyclopedia online even admits there is no scriptural support for the “immaculate conception”! yet catholics insist it’s in there.
O RLY?
So... God Almighty would be prevented from the spreading of the Gospel, the glory and truth of Christ Jesus ALL BECAUSE of the Roman Catholic Church or a Roman historian? Really? Wow. The "God" you guys worship really isn't much of a god. The one, true, living God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is omnipotent -- sovereign -- holy, just, perfect, omniscient an omnipresent. Man holds NO sway over God.
Romans 9:20
"But who are you, O man, ato answer back to God? bWill what is molded say to its molder, Why have you made me like this?
So... I don't think the Roman Catholic Church did ANYTHING to provide us knowledge of Christ. In fact, we have knowledge of Christ DESPITE the Roman Catholic Church.
Hoss
Close enough??? Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. You claimed to have solid scriptural support and “no room for error”. It’s quite clear that you DON’T, not even close.
Both statements mean the same thing, nothing happened if it isn't in scripture and scripture alone....what's the difference.......you claimed that the Immaculate Conception and Assumption didn't happen because they weren't mentioned in scripture.....sheesh.
The “sacrament of reconciliation”? Wrong. It’s called the Ministry of Reconciliation and ALL Christians are to preach the gospel and reconcile all to God through the gospel of Jesus Christ.
2 Corinthians 5:17-19
Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come. Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.
You have an extraordinarily weird imagination and come up with the most bizarre explanations for your statements that I have ever seen.....nimrod.....whore of Babylon......please!!
You quote a passage from the Catholic Bible to point out that they did not bring you the word of Christ.
God used the Catholic church to spread and protect the word of God throughout the ages. Could He have done it differently??....of course, but He didn't If you did not have the Bible, how would you even know that Christ existed????
Since you seem to think the RCC is the only reason, check the "Catholic" Bible for this verses (and should the RCC should have paid attention to them):
Romans 1:18-20:
"18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse."
Seems like we know about God from all the things around us as well. So We have the Bible DESPITE the RCC, not necessarily because of it. We have God's Word because of God.
Hoss
I keep asking our FR Catholics what is MISSING from Scripture that is NEEDED for man's salvation; but have NEVER gotten a clear, concise answer.
His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness.
--2 Peter 1:3
I guess it's whether you take Jesus at His word...
Any place you are able list them: go ahead.
DHYB
You've bought what they have taught.
I take it up with YOU!
Silly Prot!
You KNOW that our beloved pope is ONLY infallible in matters of doctrine and some other thing.
It's true; you won't find it in Scripture (heck, POPE ain't even there!;) but we KNOW it's true because Rome has TOLD us it's true!
--Catholic_Wannabe_Dude(Hail Mary!!)
Just His Mom...
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