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1 posted on 01/22/2016 2:40:45 PM PST by piusv
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Canon 844 of the Catholic Church Code of Canon Law only permits the Eucharist to be given to Catholics in the state of grace (that is, not in a state of grave sin), except in cases of non-Catholics who request communion and who are from churches that are approved by the Holy See as holding the same faith as Catholics regarding communion. Lutherans have traditionally been seen as not holding to the same faith as Catholics on the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist.

The bolded being the slippery slope. Previously the Church NEVER allowed non-Catholics to receive communion unless they first converted to the Catholic Faith...whole and entire.

So when Lutherans and other non-Catholics are allowed to receive communion and when the divorced and remarried are allowed to receive communion, look no further than JPII's 1983 Code of Canon Law...which was the codification of Vatican II.

2 posted on 01/22/2016 2:44:41 PM PST by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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Since Francis treats Communion so carelessly, one might conclude that he doesn’t believe in the real presence, at least not as the Church teaches.


3 posted on 01/22/2016 2:53:00 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Don't Tread On Me)
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permitting a Lutheran to receive communion is one thing (and we will discuss, for sure, here) but
permitting a Pelosi (pushing millions of our tax dollars to the baby-killing factories called ‘planned parenthood’) is yet another

Canon Law exists to deny communion to the Pelosis of the world.

Let the Church do that FIRST.


8 posted on 01/22/2016 2:59:17 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 -- 43 BCE))
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This should not surprise anyone. Pope John Paul II signed an agreement with several Lutheran Synods about a dozen years ago to offer Communion at joint services on special occasions.

I don’t know which synod the Finns belong, but it seems to me that this would be covered. I attended just such a service (and there were several in the area) that was jointly concelebrated with 3 Catholic churches and about 5 Lutheran churches of the area. I don’t think it was a Mass (it was along time ago) but each pastor spoke and read prayers, and the choirs from all of the churches were combined. Communion was offered to all.

I was amazed to see the number of Catholics from our parish there, with Lutheran spouses. These celebrations may have been peculiar to Wisconsin, however, because none of my kids in other states even heard about this mo0mentous occasion. The agreement followed years of negotiations and was signed in Switzerland. I know that the Missouri and Wisconsin Synods refused to sign, so they were not included. Certainly ELCA was well represented. And some other smaller synods, as well.


10 posted on 01/22/2016 3:10:16 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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this may be of interest (especially paragraphs 153—161)

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/lutheran-fed-docs/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_2013_dal-conflitto-alla-comunione_en.html

Best,
fhc

ps: sorry if this shows up twice, it didn’t seem to display the first time I sent it thru the internet so here it is (again, possibly) just to be sure.


13 posted on 01/22/2016 3:27:47 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 -- 43 BCE))
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