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To: Arthur McGowan
Jesus is not the Trinity.

Jesus is the same God that the Father is...He is the same God that the Holy Spirit is...Therefore, if Mary is the mother of God Jesus, she is also the mother of God the Father...

Jesus’ body and soul were hypostatically united to the Word

That's just a bunch of mumbo-jumbo...It's a word your religion uses to make regular Catholics think your religion knows something they don't...

Which is to say that the Word functions as the Act of Existence of the body and soul of Jesus.

The act of existance??? Man there's some Aristotle and Plato right there...

The body and soul of Jesus have been, since his conception, perfectly sinless and immortal—the opposite of “from below.” When Jesus died on the cross, it was by a free act of his will.

Jesus' body was immortal??? Unless he chose for it not to be immortal so he could die on the Cross??? C'mon now...

Jesus' human body did not come from heaven and it couldn't go to heaven...God became human flesh so he could have a terrestrial body...One like we have...One that feels pain...One that gets hungry...

Jesus body couldn't go to heaven until it was changed into a celestial body...A glorified body...

It's all in the scripture...You just have to study it and put it together...God didn't put all that stuff in the bible just to ignore it...

Mary was not the mother of that celestial body...When Jesus' human body died, his spirit returned to heaven and his soul went to Hell; Abraham's Bosom...

769 posted on 01/05/2016 2:27:32 PM PST by Iscool (Izlam and radical Izlam are different the same way a wolf and a wolf in sheeps clothing are differen)
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To: Iscool
Jesus is the same God that the Father is...He is the same God that the Holy Spirit is...Therefore, if Mary is the mother of God Jesus, she is also the mother of God the Father...

God is one substance. I.e., God the Father and God the Son are not two beings. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are not three beings.

Mary is the mother of the Second Person of the Trinity, and not the mother of the other two Persons of the Trinity.

You have simply asserted that God is one, and IGNORED the distinction of the PERSONS in God. I.e., in order to deny Mary the title of Mother of God, you have denied the TRINITY.

This is what always happens on these threads: Those who deny Mary the title of Mother of God always end up denying one or more fundamental dogmas in Christology, or they end up denying fundamental Trinitarian dogmas. They have to split Christ into separate beings, or they have to smudge the Persons of the Trinity into a single blob.

Anyway, your Trinitarian theology and your Christology would get you burned at the stake by Luther, Calvin, Melancthon, Cromwell, etc., etc.

775 posted on 01/05/2016 2:48:33 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Iscool; metmom; daniel1212; MamaB; Syncro; boatbums; WVKayaker; MHGinTN; HossB86; lupie; Elsie; ...
When Jesus' human body died, his spirit returned to heaven and his soul went to Hell; Abraham's Bosom

Okay I have to know how many of the non-Catholics agree with Izzy that the soul and the spirit are two separate things? Izzy claims the spirit returned to heaven and the soul went to hell. How many of you all think that this is dead nuts 100% accurate?
and if this is accurate prove it from scripture.

799 posted on 01/05/2016 3:33:08 PM PST by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons.)
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