Mary, Mother of God

The Sacred Page ^ | December 29, 2015

[ealgeone]

Jesus gave more glory to God his Father by submitting to his Mother for thirty years than he would have given him had he converted the whole world by working the greatest miracles. How highly then do we glorify God when to please him we submit ourselves to Mary, taking Jesus as our sole model.

I guess the writer nor the poster isn't familiar with John 17.

This is why Christianity rejects roman catholic tradition.

[DungeonMaster]

I guess the writer nor the poster isn't familiar with John 17.

I post De Montfort quotes to show just how far some Catholics go in their "adoration" of Mary. Most Catholics are not aware that it goes to this level.

[daniel1212]

16. God the Father gave his only Son to the world only through Mary. Whatever desires the patriarchs may have cherished, whatever entreaties the prophets and saints of the Old Law may have had for 4,000 years to obtain that treasure, it was Mary alone who merited it and found grace before God by the power of her prayers and the perfection of her virtues.

And just where or where do you see this even intimated in Scripture? Mary was graced - unmerited favor (cf. Eph. 1:6) because of who she carried, and nowhere does it say or infer Mary was chosen due to her meriting it by the by the power of her prayers and the perfection of her virtues??? The Holy Spirit mentions souls like Noah who were "perfect" and upright, and how the Son was sinless, but never says that of holy Mary, and does not even mention her praying until Acts 1. Dare you add to the word of God, and charge the Holy Spirit with inconsistency and neglect, seeing as He is careful to mention exceptions to the norm, even more minor ones (extra fingers, height, longevity, etc.) among less notable characters? And gives to no created being anything close to the exalted superlatives and adulation and attributes ascribed to Mary by Catholic devotees! This thinking sir of mortals far "above that which is written" (1Co. 4:6) is parroting blasphemy, and the Mary of Scripture will condemn it!

17. God the Father imparted to Mary his fruitfulness as far as a mere creature was capable of receiving it, to enable her to bring forth his Son and all the members of his mystical body.

And just where do you see this in Scripture, and or as required? The Holy Spirit speaks of a place being filled with the Holy Spirit so much that men could not stand, and even one the face of Moses shining because of it, but does not even show Mary being prayed to, and overall says very little of her. And nowhere does the Spirit honor Mary one who brought forth all the members of his mystical body, which extrapolation would lead all the way back to Eve!

And as the Lord breathed His pure words thru Adamic men, so the Lord Jesus could have come into this world thru a

18. God the Son came into her virginal womb as a new Adam into his earthly paradise, to take his delight there and produce hidden wonders of grace.God-made-man found freedom in imprisoning himself in her womb.

And just where in Scripture do you see the womb of Mary described as an earthly paradise wherein the Son of God found freedom? Freedom in a womb? Poor God. How nice of you to help the Holy Spirit out to provide what He failed to do in inspiring His written word!

He found his glory and that of his Father in hiding his splendours from all creatures here below and revealing them only to Mary.

And where is this taught or evidenced? Instead, the Spirit mentions the Lord putting the Father's will first in response to her desires. (Lk. 2:49; Jn. 2:4)

Even at his death she had to be present so that he might be united with her in one sacrifice and be immolated with her consent to the eternal Father, just as formerly Isaac was offered in sacrifice by Abraham when he accepted the will of God. It was Mary who nursed him, fed him, cared for him, reared him, and sacrificed him for us.

Wrong, as unlike Abraham with Issac, Mary had no power to prevent Christ from being offered, and a sacrifice is something you control but choose to give up. The Lord said He laid His life down freely, and stayed behind in the temple contrary to the will of His earthly caretakers whom He created with the Father and Spirit, and later had to remind Mary that His obligation was to do His Father's will,(Lk. 2:49; Jn. 2:4) and at least delayed going to her when she wanted to see Him, and equated all who did His Father's will as being His mother and brethren. (Mt. 12:46-50) But with Caths its Mary, Mary, Mary with literally hundreds of superlative titles even blasphemously ascribing uniquely Divine attributes to their demonic (it is) heavenly demigoddess in their cultic unScriptural devotion to the invention they made of a pious, holy Spirit-filled vessel almighty God chose to use. And your wanton ascriptions above what is written have provoked this censure. Go ahead and whine like a liberal if you want.

[kinsman redeemer]

Oh!

Sorry.

What Louis de Montfort wrote is a crock.

(fixed.)

[verga]

Timeline of Pagan Heresies That are now Dogma (which cannot be found in Scripture, without distorting or downright lying about it!)

January - ME Januari(us), OE Januarius, translation of Latin Januarius, named after JANUS, god of beginnings.
February - ME OE Februarius from Latin Februarius, named for Februa, the feast of purification.
March - ME March(e), from Latin Martius, (month of) Mars.
April - ME Averil, OF Avril, Latin Aprilis mensis (month). The name may derive from the Greek goddess of love, Aphrodite.
May - ME OE Maius, Latin Maius mensis (month), from the Greek Maia, goddess of spring (growth).
June - ME Jun(e), OE Iunius, from Latin mensis Junius, named after the goddess Juno, Queen of the gods.
July - ME Julie, OE Julius, from Latin Julius (Caesar) after whom it was named in 44 BC. The original name was quintilis, fifth month in the early Roman calendar.
August - ME OE Agustus from Latin Augustus (Caesar) 8 BC. The original name was sextilis, sixth month in the early Roman calendar.
September - ME Septembre from Latin September, seventh month in the early Roman calendar
October - ME OE from Latin October, eighth month in the early Roman calendar
November - ME OE from Latin November, ninth month of the early Roman calendar, from novem NINE
December - ME Decembre from OF and Latin December, tenth month of the early Roman calendar (decem TEN + membri from mens MONTH + ri suffix)

Sunday - Sun's Day (Note: xtians/Roman catholics worship on this day. this was the day of the Roman Sun God)
Monday - Moon's Day
Tuesday - Tiw's Day (Norse God)
Wednesday - Woden's Day (Anglo-Saxon God)
Thursday - Thor's Day (Norse God)
Friday - Freyja's Day (Norse God)
Saturday - Saturn's Day

Valentines day-http://www.npr.org/2011/02/14/133693152/the-dark-origins-of-valentines-day
From Feb. 13 to 15, the Romans celebrated the feast of Lupercalia. The men sacrificed a goat and a dog, then whipped women with the hides of the animals they had just slain.
The brutal fete included a matchmaking lottery, in which young men drew the names of women from a jar. The couple would then be, um, coupled up for the duration of the festival — or longer, if the match was right.

Christmas Tree- Lutheran- Taken from the Druids.

Souls going to heaven-http://www.ucg.org/vertical-thought/paganism-in-christianity
Unfortunately, some of the most basic things believed by most professing Christians derive from ancient paganism rather than from the Bible. The idea that people have immortal souls was first taught in ancient Egypt and Babylon. The Greeks likewise taught that at death the soul would separate from the physical body ( Jewish Encyclopedia , 1941, Vol. 6, pp. 564, 566, “Immortality of the Soul”). That idea was merged into Christianity from Greek philosophy. It did not come from inspired Scripture.

The ancient Egyptians developed the concept of going to heaven. In their mythology, the god Osiris was killed but then raised back to life, whereupon he went to a distant heavenly realm. The Egyptians concluded that if he could do this, then human beings could follow ( Lewis Browne, This Believing World , pp. 83-84). This heavenly reward was a central teaching of several ancient mystery religions—

[Elsie]

Quit channeling Mrs.ELSIE!

[daniel1212]

I post De Montfort quotes to show just how far some Catholics go in their "adoration" of Mary. Most Catholics are not aware that it goes to this level.

Now you tell us! Don't do that without a qualifying statement, while i could have provided you with some more , including from the idolator De Montfort. Sorry for rebuking you as if you were engaging in the same, but that was outlandish. On the other hand, i can and do engage in idolatry whenever something created becomes my highest object of spiritual affection, object of allegiance, or source of security, but which is not the same as formally ascribing to created beings what belongs to God alone.

But so you know, RCs will deny that, no matter how it looks and sounds, the adulation they engage in is not actually (crossing that fine line into) "adoration," which is worship in Catholic nomenclature, which V2 teaches they and Muslims engage in toward the same God.

As often said, one would have a hard time in Bible times explaining kneeling before a statue and praising the entity it represented in the unseen world, beseeching such for Heavenly help, and making offerings to them, and giving glory and titles and ascribing attributes to such which are never given in Scripture to created beings (except to false gods), including having the uniquely Divine power glory to hear and respond to virtually infinite numbers of prayers individually addressed to them

Which manner of adulation would constitute worship in Scripture, yet Catholics imagine that by playing word games then they can avoid crossing the invisible line between mere "veneration" and worship.

Moses, put down those rocks! I was only engaging in hyper dulia, not adoring her. Can't you tell the difference?

[Elsie]

At the wedding in Cana he changed water into wine at her humble prayer, and this was his first miracle in the order of nature.

Those damned Prots removed MORE of the Scriptures!!

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John 2:1-12  Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

1 And the third day, there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee: and the mother of Jesus was there.

² And Jesus also was invited, and his disciples, to the marriage.

³ And the wine failing, the mother of Jesus saith to him: They have no wine.

⁴ And Jesus saith to her: Woman, what is that to me and to thee? my hour is not yet come.

⁵ His mother saith to the waiters: Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye.

⁶ Now there were set there six waterpots of stone, according to the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three measures apiece.

⁷ Jesus saith to them: Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim.

⁸ And Jesus saith to them: Draw out now, and carry to the chief steward of the feast. And they carried it.

⁹ And when the chief steward had tasted the water made wine, and knew not whence it was, but the waiters knew who had drawn the water; the chief steward calleth the bridegroom,

¹⁰ And saith to him: Every man at first setteth forth good wine, and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse. But thou hast kept the good wine until now.

¹¹ This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee; and manifested his glory, and his disciples believed in him.

¹² After this he went down to Capharnaum, he and his mother, and his brethren, and his disciples: and they remained there not many days.

Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

[Elsie]

God the Holy Spirit entrusted his wondrous gifts to Mary...

And I got a pedigreed unicorn for Christmas.

[Elsie]

Holy Mary, Mother of God,

the bible says...

...Mother of Jesus.

Why does Rome INSIST that it's followers use this OTHER term that is NOT found in Scripture?

[Elsie]

ABISHAG II

[Elsie]

I’ve told him a million times not to exaggerate!

[daniel1212]

Good list. I am sure none of those things will be in the Lord’s kingdom, save for the first day as the Lord’s, though the names of the months and days of the week are mere reference points, not the Christianized paganism of Rome which too many Prots perpetuate.

[Elsie]

Isn’t there an ‘official’ Catholic survey we could use?

Surely Rome would like to know where remedial catechism teaching is required.

[Elsie]

Peter Piper picked a peck of pimpled preppers

[WVKayaker]

Wow! Such a lengthy nothing post! You should keep playing with your pigeons, because that list dos not EXCUSE the error of the cult of Roman Catholicism!, but compounds it instead.

It only better confirms the paganism that crept into the early church and takes away from God's plan. As I have always heard, : two wrongs do not make it right!".

[Elsie]

Mary merited NOTHING.

Heretic!

Heretic!!

HERETIC!!!

Oil the rack!

Prepare the oil!!

Open the door to the Iron Maiden!!!

[Elsie]

Extra crispy!

(First; ya need more BATTERING.)

[Elsie]

I post De Montfort quotes to show just how far some Catholics go in their "adoration" of Mary. Most Catholics are not aware that it goes to this level.

SOME are evidently poorly catechized...

 

 

 

Bernadine: ...all gifts, all virtues, and all graces are dispensed by the hands of Mary to whomsoever, when, and as she pleases. O Lady, since thou art the dispenser of all graces, and since the grace of salvation can ONLY come through thy hands, OUR SALVATION DEPENDS ON THEE.

Bonaventure: ...the gates of heaven will open to all who confide in the protection of Mary. Blessed are they who know thee, O Mother of God, for the knowledge of THEE is the high road to everlasting life, and the publication of thy virtues is the way of ETERNAL SALVATION . Give ear, O ye nations; and all you who desire heaven , serve, honor Mary, and certainly you will find ETERNAL LIFE.

Ephem: ...devotion to the divine Mother...is the unlocking of the heavenly Jerusalem.

Blosius: To the, O Lady, are committed the KEYS and the treasures of the kingdom of Heaven.

Ambrose: ...constantly pray 'Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since thou hast its KEYS.

Fulgetius: ...by Mary God descended from Heaven into the world, that by HER man might ascend from earth to Heaven.

Athanasius: ...And, thou, O Lady, wast filled with grace, that thou mightiest be the way of our SALVATION and the means of ascent to the heavenly Kingdom.

Richard of Laurence: Mary, in fine, is the mistress of heaven; for there she commands as she wills, and ADMITS whom she wills.

Guerric: ...he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there... ...and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.

Anselm: It suffices, O Lady, that thou willest it, and our SALVATION is certain.

Antoninus: ...souls protected by Mary, and on which she casts her eyes, are NECESSARILY JUSTIFIED AND SAVED.

[Elsie]

In their mythology, the god Osiris was killed but then raised back to life...

The popular motif of Isis suckling her son Horus, however, lived on in a Christianized context as the popular image of Mary suckling her infant son Jesus from the fifth century onward.^[6]

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis