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Mary, Mother of God
The Sacred Page ^ | December 29, 2015

Posted on 12/31/2015 4:29:48 PM PST by NYer

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To: terycarl

You poor thing ... in what epoch are you bogged down, the dark ages or the Time of Jesus, when people not only spole three languages in the region but read at least two of them in order to engage in commerce. Writing was so common in the Time of Jesus that there were little wax tablets all over the market places and in public forums. Statuary had inscriptions written on their pedestals, which people recognize immediately!


1,481 posted on 01/08/2016 5:48:23 PM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Elsie

No, it was earlier than that.

2016 years from the year 2016 is zero.

They started copying it down from the year Zero, the year that Catholicism started.

Jesus was the first Catholic, I don’t know if He became one in the womb or when He was born. It’s a mystery...

Other Catholics say Catholicism started in the yr 33.

They do agree on one thing, their pope is a dope!


1,482 posted on 01/08/2016 5:50:23 PM PST by Syncro (James 1:8- A double minded man is unstable in all his ways-- Holy Bible)
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To: The Cuban

No, you cannot go where you already are.

But the Holy Spirit can work on your soul, as well as show you what the Bible is saying to you.

But you must desire a relationship with God with all your heart and all your soul.—Luke 10:27


1,483 posted on 01/08/2016 5:56:28 PM PST by Syncro (James 1:8- A double minded man is unstable in all his ways-- Holy Bible)
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To: terycarl; metmom
To put some clarity around this issue.

If there was a synagogue in the town there was a least one who could read.

Christians were considered to be primarily responsible for the adoption of the codex which allowed writing on both sides. This made the collection of writings easier to obtain and transport. For example Papyrus 46 contains Paul's letters on one handy volume.

It is true that a significant minority of the population was literate in this time period. This was usually the top layer of society. A much larger number, but still a definite minority, had a minimal but functional literacy.

Professional scribes were available to assist in drawing up and reading legal documents.

The availability of papyrus and slaves made it possible for books to be produced in the Hellenistic age on a scale previously unknown. Learning was highly prized and there were publishers and booksellers in the major cities to satisfy the desire for reading. Most of the cities of the Greek world had libraries.

The library at Alexandria for instance had an estimated 700,000 rolls in its collection at one time.

A form of entertainment in the first century would be to have friends over to your house and read to them. This is one of the ways the Gospels and Paul's letters became "public".....but only within the circles of the churches and of course by reading in the context of the Christian assemblies.

The formal dedications to Theophilus in Luke and Acts indicates these books were intended for a wider audience that just the Christian community and reflect a higher level of culture.

Source: Backgrounds of Early Christianity, Everett Ferguson, pp128-134

What we learn from this is that early Christianity was in the forefront of trying to get the Word out by using the newest technology available.

The early church was in the business of getting the Word out to the people in any manner possible. Koine Greek was the principal language of commerce throughout the Roman Empire. Although Palestine was multilingual in the first century, Greek was the language of choice in order to disseminate a message as widely as possible. As a result, all of the NT was written in Greek.

Ferguson, pp135-136

1,484 posted on 01/08/2016 5:57:55 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: MHGinTN

You might find my post 1484 of interest.


1,485 posted on 01/08/2016 5:58:47 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: terycarl
You obviously didn't pay attention in English class either or you would understand apparent exaggeration...


1,486 posted on 01/08/2016 6:15:34 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Syncro
If this "stone" statue on the right could cry out, it would say...

It HAS spoken!!

The last recorded words coming from it were:

John 2:5
His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it.

1,487 posted on 01/08/2016 6:18:08 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl

Big deal. Hand copied and hand written.

So it’s a little slower but not impossible.

It’s plenty feasible that a lot of things were written down.

But I know that doesn’t fit with Catholic agenda for trying to justify keeping Scripture out of the hands of the laity.


1,488 posted on 01/08/2016 7:31:15 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: terycarl

It says *Do not bow down to.*

Catholics DO bow down to.

THAT can be seen.


1,489 posted on 01/08/2016 7:32:00 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: terycarl
1 artificially blocks a natural bodily function, 1 is used when that function probably won't take place...HUGE difference.

Onan's method was *natural*. There was no artificial anything involved and it was still considered sin.

Therefore if the birth control itself is sinful then it's sinful whether the method is *artificial* or *natural*.

Raising the artificial vs natural issue is just hair splitting, looking for a technicality to get away with sin.

1,490 posted on 01/08/2016 7:39:16 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

It’s like veniial and mortal. Caths can split more hairs than imagined.


1,491 posted on 01/08/2016 7:41:11 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: terycarl
Music....dress....OSAS....

Oh. Do ALL Catholics dress the same?

Do they all listen to the same music?

Do they all think they're not going to heaven?

I hadn't noticed.

... if they basically agree on everything (and they probably do on most) why don't they join hands, become a powerful and influential group, and stop opposing each other???

Roman rite vs EO.

Where's the unity in that? They both claim to be the ORIGINAL Catholic church with the other being in schism.

The EO don't recognize the supremacy of the pope and previous popes have ex cathedra condemned to hell anyone who doesn't submit to the papacy, including the EO.

Care to try again at condemning the Prots without being a hypocrite?

1,492 posted on 01/08/2016 7:45:00 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: terycarl

God always has a remnant.

And they’ve never been part of the crowd.


1,493 posted on 01/08/2016 7:46:09 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: MHGinTN; terycarl

Peter and John were fishermen, and they wrote parts of the NT.

THEY knew how to write.

And they were just fishermen.


1,494 posted on 01/08/2016 7:49:28 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Elsie
Mary; not wanting to have any more children; told Joseph to...

To what? Was that AFTER he asked, "are you awake?"

:-)

1,495 posted on 01/08/2016 7:53:52 PM PST by Mark17 (Thank God I have Jesus, there's more wealth in my soul than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: Elsie

Half those removed posts belonged to one person.


1,496 posted on 01/08/2016 7:54:04 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ealgeone; terycarl; MHGinTN; Syncro; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; BlueDragon; boatbums; caww; ...

Literacy in the Time of Jesus - Could His Words Have Been Recorded in His Lifetime?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/1573658/posts

Not that it’s going to convince the person whose mind is already made up. After all, we don’t want to confuse anyone with the facts.

But the rest of us might find this thread interesting.

I certainly did.


1,497 posted on 01/08/2016 8:04:42 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ealgeone

All sin has the same penalty.

Death, separation from God.

All sin has the same solution.

Forgiveness granted by grace through faith in Christ, the blood of Jesus being the ONLY thing that can cleanse from sin.


1,498 posted on 01/08/2016 8:08:09 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
Therefore if the birth control itself is sinful then it's sinful whether the method is *artificial* or *natural*

Motive, motive, motive. Follow the motive. I believe people can do the right thing, for the wrong motive, and still be sinning. If their motive, is a just a way to get around something, they will not please God, no matter what they do.

1,499 posted on 01/08/2016 8:20:16 PM PST by Mark17 (Thank God I have Jesus, there's more wealth in my soul than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: terycarl
Music....dress....OSAS....if they basically agree on everything (and they probably do on most) why don't they join hands, become a powerful and influential group, and stop opposing each other???

Well, actually they are, while it is the fruit of Rome (which she manifestly considers members) that is far more a disunified admixture of variant beliefs, and thus evangelicals are seen by both liberals and many RCs as their greatest Western threat.

1,500 posted on 01/08/2016 9:34:08 PM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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