Just speaking for myself alone, nobody else, I have my Bible and no denomination outside of Christianity. So strictly speaking for myself I have no leader no hierarchy other than Jesus
My Bible is very clear...Jesus died on the cross for my sins, we have to invite Him in thank Him for dying on the cross personally for our sins, we have to turn from our sins, repent.
Yes when/if we fall we go to Christ and ask for forgiveness, and try again.
The Bible is clear on gay marriage and abortion and all the important Christian issues.
This is not aimed at anybody, just joining the conversation
I am however sick of hearing of the Pope, wondering how many of those people coming forward for the wafer are going to vote for the Anti Christian Abomination Democrat party.
Giving a standing ovation to the pope and calling him Holy Father is just such a disgrace...sorry to anybody that is offended, but it is a absolute disgrace imo
The liberal neteworks covering this event our very happy to do so, but they would in no way cover a real Christian such as Franklin Graham
Everybody think about that one, libs and homosexual anchors like Shep,Anderson and Maddow all admire the Pope but despise real Christians like Franklin Graham
I kinda like Franklin Graham.
Personally, I agree with you that the Bible (and reason) do not contemplate same sex marriage.
But here’s the exercise: Go to a gathering of Episcopalians. Listen intently and with charity. Understand as best you can, WHY they think what they think and HOW they view scripture so that it supports (in their view) their conclusions.
When is it okay for us to walk by on the other side? I personally am happy to be an outcast Catholic if that frees me from the worries and concerns of the righteous so that I may pour win and oil on the wounds and pay for the maintenance of such sorry victims of so great a robber.
As to having no hierarchy, that is not supported in the Pauline corpus. He instructs Timothy to set up leaders. He rebukes churches on the basis of his divinely established hierachy. We can debate the details. But he talks about gifts and responsibilities and appeals, in touhing modesty, to his authority.
I don’t see how one can read Corinthians, Ephesians, and the Timothy letters without seeing an establishment of a hierarchy.
And, yes, even if the Catholics eradicated every document with which they disagreed, certainly before 150 AD there was a sense of a hierarchy. If one reads everything bfrothe canonical NT through, say 200 AD, I think one will find a nascent ecclesiology, sacramental theology, and a hierarchy. I’m not saying that PROVES anything. Proofs are thin on the ground when your God requires a leap of faith (which he also enables). But this conversation is not properyl or reasonably entered “de novo” when we have people closer to the impact zone to report to us what they thought happened and what it meant.