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More chance of hearing the Gospel in Africa than Sweden
Pastoral Meanderings ^ | 08-16-2015 | Pastor Peters

Posted on 08/16/2015 1:48:27 PM PDT by NRx

Once a solid, vibrant Lutheran stronghold, Scandinavia today is probably the most secularized region of the Western world. Spiritually, Scandinavians have become “the people that dwell in darkness.” Scandinavia is filled with large, beautiful, empty churches. This has not happened by accident. . . It is probably the case today that a randomly selected African has a better chance than a randomly selected Scandinavian of hearing the Gospel clearly preached. 

There was a time when every Swede was Lutheran from birth by law, and no other denomination was permitted. The Church of Sweden took to calling itself Den Svenska Kyrkan, "The Swedish Church." The Swedish Church was literally the only one in town, and local life centered on it, even for those who were not believers. To be a Swede was to be a member of The Swedish Church. Education was centered on Luther's Small Catechism and the schools were Lutheran parochial schools. Similar developments occurred in other Nordic lands, and Scandinavia was solidly Lutheran.

 What happened?  The Church of Sweden, as an arm of the state, became a tool of the state, of socialism, designed to strip from the Church its faith and replace the Gospel with a progressive socialism in which the government controls nearly every aspect of church life and uses the church for its own purpose.  Though the Church of Sweden was formally disestablished in 2000, it remains governed by forces outside the faith, dominated by political people pushing political agendas, in which the liturgy and catechism remain a remnant of the once profoundly Lutheran and vibrant church.

The Church of Sweden remains Lutheran only in the barest form of that identity.  The Church of Sweden has found reason to disregard or dispute passages of Scripture in favor of its own politicized agenda as you can read below in the justifying of same sex weddings:

The official position of the Church of Sweden Steering Committee in defending its decision to offer same-sex weddings in the Church:  As regards a theological perspective, what is relevant is that the commandment of love is superior to other commandments and prohibitions in the Bible. What is crucial concerning the human cohabitation forms is not individual Bible passages but what is beneficial or harmful to people  Or, to paraphrase that ancient serpent, "You can be like God, deciding what is good and what is evil." And the Steering Committee continues: We therefore have reason to be critical of individual Bible passages about homosexuality. These need to be related to the Bible's more overarching message, including the double commandment of love, and to what the Biblical authors have expressed in other contexts.  [emphasis added]   HT Scandinavia House

Yet, the miracle is that a stirring of confessional young Lutherans has begun to develop in Sweden.  Where the liturgy remains, the Word remains and God will raise up people who will hear and heed His Word and preach it without qualification or fear.  The goal of the Nordic Confessional renewal movements is to bring the Gospel back to these spiritually devastated lands.

As one who is proudly half Swedish, I am personally anxious and hopeful for the day when faith will not be a museum piece but will reflect a new hunger of people in the pews for hope built upon Christ and a new generation of confessional Lutheran clergy will work to restore the faith the Scandinavia by the faithful preaching and teaching of God's Word.  Once Sweden came to the rescue of Lutheranism and now it is time for Lutherans (like the LCMS) to come to the rescue of the Church of Sweden.  Pray for those young men whose faith and confidence in the Gospel may well signal the first real hope for the Church of Sweden in a very long time!

Imagine how something so near and dear to the culture and life of a people could become alien and estranged from their culture and life!  Look around you.  The Gospel must be addressed by one generation to those who come after.  The Church is, from our perspective, always and even one generation from disappearing.  We cannot let this happen. . . not in Europe and not here, either.


TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Ministry/Outreach; Theology
KEYWORDS: christendom; churchandstate; deathofthewest; lcms; nordicconfessional; sweden
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To: humblegunner

And how many Scots were martyred for being Christian last year? Your ideas of Africa are 50 years out of date.

And African priests have worked in American mission fields for years. We had several in our Tulsa diocese.

There are even Christian movies made in Africa on you tube.


21 posted on 08/16/2015 10:42:12 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: humblegunner

FYI...American pioneers ate grasshoppers.

Africans eat flying ants and caterpillers.

Pinoys eat duck embyos and crickets.


22 posted on 08/16/2015 10:44:37 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: humblegunner

What if this African Christian is from Ethiopia? His people have been Christian for 2 thousand years...


23 posted on 08/17/2015 5:39:37 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos

Then he needs to go lecture somebody who isn’t already a Christian.

And also maybe work on the mastery of running water and electricity while he’s at it.


24 posted on 08/17/2015 5:50:41 AM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: humblegunner; Cronos
"Then he needs to go lecture somebody who isn’t already a Christian."

Somehow, I have the strong impression that's what he's doing.

25 posted on 08/17/2015 6:48:41 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Somehow, I have the strong impression that's what he's doing.

Well then kindly go back and see post #6.

My entire premise is based upon, and I quote:

If some N00b Christian African comes around “Missionarying” at me,

26 posted on 08/17/2015 6:51:46 AM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: Kolokotronis; demshateGod

There are “free” (non state) synods in Scandinavia and other EU countries. The Finnish synods are actually closer to the Orthodox after a few hundred years of close contact.

But, as my Grandfather used to say, there is a reason we left for the new world (and Russia). The rot that came from the State churches was pretty far advanced.


27 posted on 08/17/2015 7:16:44 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: humblegunner
That was exactly my premise when I said he was addressing people who are not Christians, in some sense of the word.

Most of us--- I include you and me in a larger "us"-- could benefit from a little Remedial Christianity.

My father and father-in-law both grew up in good,God-pleasing homes (Catholic and Baptist, respectively) with no running water. Noplace in the Bible does it say, "They will know we are Christians by our indoor plumbing."

Oh, and BTW: Modern kitchens and baths in Nigeria

There are some fine toilet pics there too, to address your personal interest.

Note tagline, too.

28 posted on 08/17/2015 8:09:10 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I include you and me in a larger "us"-- could benefit from a little Remedial Christianity.

Should I find myself lacking in some particular, I can remedy that lack with the Bible.

I need not supplicate myself to some cat with broken English and cricket legs stuck between his teeth.

29 posted on 08/17/2015 9:13:43 AM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: humblegunner

I assure you of my prayers.


30 posted on 08/17/2015 12:26:20 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Locusts and wild honey.)
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To: terycarl

The RCatholic church has changed their views on what to include and exclude over the years, most likely for the same reasons. Just because someone finds an old scroll is no reason to accept it will nilly as canonical, as if there was no such thing as fiction in the ancient world and everything written must therefore be religious, sacred and inspired... some of what has been found is only fragmentary.

I’ve read the Apocryphal books though not some of the more obscure documents or fragmentary documents, we’re not forbidden to read them, if anything inquiring about them is welcome and the pastor might even like it as it’s a chance for him to delve into Greek, but so far I haven’t seen anything in them to get excited about so I do not get the impression we’re “deprived.” There’s a translation of the Apocrypha on my shelf, contrary to some folk’s belief we haven’t held any book burnings.


31 posted on 09/09/2015 2:08:55 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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