Posted on 06/19/2015 12:01:57 PM PDT by RnMomof7
This has nothing to do with infallibility....only under very rigid circumstances, speaking Ex-Cathedra, on matters concerning Faith and Morals is he protected from error....other than that he is just a person who is entitled to express his opinion.
Yeah, right....The Catholic church has buildings older than that.....sheesh..
>> Ignore the Bible at your own peril.
I agree. Corollary: *add* to the Bible at your own peril.
To construe the rock of which JESUS spoke as anything other than Peter’s Spirit-given faith, and twist it into justification for a stream of mortal popes, is to subvert GOD’s inspired Word. And you do that at your own eternal peril.
And your minister, in one of the thousands of different protestant denominations taught you that......O.K., I guess.
IF they follow the Bible, I would answer yes. The Reformation came about from abuses by the too-big-for-its-britches Catholic Church. Martin Luther was sent to correct some of these.
Matthew 28
The Commissioning of the Disciples.* 16f The eleven* disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had ordered them. 17* When they saw him, they worshiped, but they doubted. 18* g
Then Jesus approached and said to them, All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19h
Go, therefore,* and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit, 20i teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.*
And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age.
The Catholic Church has followed the instructions of Jesus to Baptize and Teach. The Catholic Church by work of her Bishops, Priests, Deacons and Members has done that, yet it is still a work in progress. In doing so, it became a larger organization (Body of Christ) and there was a need to establish order and leadership changes throughout the centuries. It is natural to have a leader and Christ established Peter as that leader and his successors continued to lead Catholics and grow the Body of Christ.
There have been many heresies and other religions that formed and left the Catholic Church. Including the Protestants that protested The teachings of Jesus. They insist on sola scripture with little leadership. They ignore some of the teachings of Jesus in the Bible and sacred traditions. They ignore the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist.
Yet they continue to dispute the leadership of the Catholic Church.
If they were the true church/ religion of Jesus, why wouldn’t they stress the positive Good News of Jesus instead of being so argumentative and negative?
Is there one true Church or did Jesus establish 30,000 different religions? Can everyone start their own church and believe their own personal opinion?
Remember that Jesus is always with us (Catholic Church).
All are welcome at the Catholic Church. Saints and sinners as we learn to love Jesus and our neighbors on our path toward salvation in Heaven.
And your priest told you something different, terycarl? I would say you have a 50/50 chance of being right except the rest of the Scriptures support Jesus being the Rock of the Church.
Matthew 18:20 "For where two or more are gathered in My name, I am there in the midst of them". I'll take that as a YES as long as they go by the teachings in the Bible.
Remember that Jesus is always with us (Catholic Church).
I think you added that (Catholic Church) part because it ain't in my Bible.
If the answer is yes, why did it take over 200 years to decide which books were in or out?
I believe they were somewhat preoccupied trying to avoid being fed to lions and such.
God you are very ignorant of the Bible. Ever heard of St Peter?
napscoordinator, you are not only falsely accusing your brother but at the same time using Gods name in vain proving you are the one guilty of ignorance. For shame!
True, and it is He, Himself, who is the Rock on which His church is built, not Peter.
“its about putting someone between you and God and making money.”
Definitely. It’s what cults do. The papacy and all it entails is probably the biggest scam known to mankind.
“GOD you are very ignorant of the Bible. Ever heard of St Peter?”
Who’s “ignorant of the Bible”? Seems I read in the Bible that “Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.” (Exodus 20:7) Blaspheming by flinging around “God” is very, very naughty.
Most likely everyone has heard of Peter, who was/is as much a “saint” as I am. (And I am. All born again Christians are referred to as saints in the New Testament.) Now the Catholic church shakes some chicken bones over some mortal and pronounces him/her a “saint”. Not Scriptural in any way.
Also not Scriptural is saying “abracadabra” and decreeing that Peter is a/the pope. There is no connection in the Bible. The same person could’ve said that the desciple John morphed into his Great Aunt Fanny and that would have been equally logical — which is not logical at all.
“The rock” referred to is Jesus Christ; not Peter.
It would be nice if people would study and learn instead of sopping and believing up fairy tales made up by mortal men. Most Freepers are adamant that the Constitution be adhered to, and that it’s the final authority for the country. Why can’t they give that same honor and respect to the Bible, the Final Authority for Christianity? Sad.
The short answer is no.
Not only could they, but they did exactly that. I just wonder what their initial motivation for it was?
+1
Finally, the mention of petros vs. petra.
Small taters when you realize that YOUR priests are insisting you believe you are drinking the literal blood of Christ at the Eucharist/Remembrance. YOUR religion, Catholicism, believes their priests must sacrifice Jesus over and over and over again, as if His entering ONCE FOR ALL FOREVER into the Heavenly Holy of Holies with His perfect blood to spread upon the Mercy Seat above the laws was not sufficient for catholic Justification.
Amen bro.
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