Posted on 03/24/2015 8:06:07 AM PDT by RnMomof7
Is this a general rule or just the RF?
It is a rule on the RF, you would have to ask the Admin Moderator if it is a rule elsewhere.
On the News Forum, I do know that trolls are an exception.
Thank you! :-)
No. Paul wanted everyone to read it. If God had wanted it it would be in the Bible. Do you honestly believe that the Creator is helpless?!
You’ve got some splainin to do.
I will let Sacred Scripture splain it. All of these verses support the concept that Mary is the mother of God. I have yet to see anything that contradicts that concept.
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Isaiah 7:14
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily. But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Matthew 1:18-23
And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, to a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary. And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be. And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. Luke 1:26-35
And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Juda; And entered into the house of Zacharias, and saluted Elisabeth. And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy. And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord. Luke 1:39-45
And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:) To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child. And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered. And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn. And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid. And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger. Luke 2:4-12
And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him. And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord’s Christ. And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law, Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and said, Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word: For mine eyes have seen thy salvation, Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people; A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel. And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him. And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against; (Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed. Luke 2:25-35
Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him. When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born. And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet, And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel. Then Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, enquired of them diligently what time the star appeared. And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found him, bring me word again, that I may come and worship him also. When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was. When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy. And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh. And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way. And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him. When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt: And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son. Matthew 2:1-15
Are you claiming that if somebody whispers upon the name of Jesus, that might be prayer; but if someone openly & publicly & directly calls unto Jesus, well that's somehow clearly not prayer?
(Your parsing is at least humorous...I love getting such prompted smiles)
Perhaps the most literal translation of the word (in context) is: "a calling upon unto"
Westcott & Hort GNT - Literal Translation: Acts 7
The Greek word in question is: epikaleo per lexiconcordance.com
The various contextual usages of this word is simply "call" as it's etymologically tied to the Greek word "kaleo" and it includes to "invoke" (as how the Name of Jesus was invoked/called upon in Acts 9:14) or to "appeal" ... as in Acts 25:21 and 28:19 where it is used to appeal to the highest governmental authority (Caesar).
Prayer or "pray" is simply an overall umbrella word used in the Scriptures for ALL types of communication with God. In the Scriptures, we find various types of prayer...for example (not meant to be exhaustive):
* Confession
* Thanksgiving
* Supplication
* Intercessory (on behalf of others)
* Blessing
* Imprecatory (numerous psalms)
Believe me, if I am a judge in a courtroom, I would eventually receive ALL of these (& other) types of communication from the parties involved...
...confessions of crimes,
...thanksgiving from victims that justice was served,
...intercessory pleas to be lenient on those to be sentenced,
...and just the opposite...others who rein down imprecatory condemnations upon the guilty, asking that I toss the book at 'em...
And guess what? Appeals would be part of that process, too.
And yes, if I was Lord Jesus, somebody calling me, appealing to me, etc. IS talking to me and IS expecting a response based upon authoritative Lordship!
But, hey. A "C+" for "effort" on a legalistic attempt to narrowly define communication with the Lord Jesus!
That’s good stuff!
Even better is that any believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, that He is the Word of God and that the Bible has been composed and preserved under the direct supervision of God the Holy Spirit...any such believer is going to be correct in his theology without knowing the details of why.
As they choose to follow Abraham, Moses, and prophets, and Christ. What is your objection? Of course God must allow competition to test the people, (Judges 2:21-23) and thus you have Muhammad, Joe Smith etc. But who are contrary to Christ.
Who knows what you're missing out on:
Indeed, only God knows, and since He did not consider them important to be preserved, or the body of Christ did not find that they fed their souls as did the books of Scripture, then you beef is with God and the body of Christ.
Obviously it was important. God wanted everyone to read it. So it wasn't God that didn't put it in the Bible, that was man's choice.
Obviously? And the word of the Lord does not remain due to man? Rather than your reasoning, what is obvious is that God preserves His word even though man seeks to destroy it. When Moses broke the tablets then God made a new set, and when Jehudi cut the written word of God with the penknife, and cast it into the fire, God commanded, "Take thee again another roll, and write in it all the former words that were in the first roll, which Jehoiakim the king of Judah hath burned." (Jeremiah 36:28)
And if there was no word of God, as a body of Truth that was progressively established by the community then one could not ever be charged with adding or subtracting from it.
one thing is for certain, God wanted us to read it.
Not so, as what is certain is that, "The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever," (Isaiah 40:8) but not everything that an apostle or any author of Scripture wrote was inspired, and nowhere do we even see anything referenced to the epistle from Laodicea. Thus the command was specific to the Colossians, and edifying, as can many works be, but not wholly inspired Scripture.
We have some strange ideas posted on a forum which is a pro-God site. Meaning the one and only true Judeo-Christian God as taught to us by KJV with no additional editing or books of fiction. Such as the Book of Mormon.
Sorry you have a problem with that, and those who uphold it. But just what are you following? Mormon? Roy Masters? Gnostics? Swendenborg?
Why do you do this?
Most of the tears eyed whalings of the TV preachers I see every day on TV are in the bible either. But then again they are usually preaching for a new BMW, so I guess it’s OK.
The rosary and any repetitive chant as prayer is really nothing more than meditation—clearing your head of all extemporaneous activity and focusing your mind on a single theme.
It’s just because it’s focused on Mary, is it considered horrible on Free Republic.
There are other religions with prayer beads. But their names are best left unsaid in these parts.
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