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To: Grateful2God
Are the 21 Coptic Christians, who lost their lives for their faith, in heaven because they were martyred (greater love hath no man), or in hell because they are not sola fides, sola scriptura, self-Bible-interpreting “born-again” people who say they follow Jesus?

Depends. If they believed they had earned their salvation by their own merits, then they are in hell, for they have no merits except what is given to them from above.

If they believed in their heart of hearts that they were unworthy of heaven and of the glory of martyrdom, then they are surely in heaven.

Luk 18:10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. Luk 18:11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. Luk 18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. Luk 18:13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. Luk 18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

81 posted on 03/02/2015 7:07:20 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; RnMomof7; Arthur McGowan; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; ...
Thanks, "Greetings_Puny_Humans" (sci-fi fan? 👾 cool!), for your answer. I appreciate your time and courtesy.

RnMomof7, I directed my question toward you owing to a post you made: Post

Catholics make the mistake of thinking that we think ALL protestants are saved (Christians).. Our churches are full of unsaved people that will be spending time in hell with Muslims , Mormons, JWs , atheists, Buddhists, Hindus , and Catholics

I was wondering if the Copts were included in the above list of the damned, that is, of the "unsaved" despite giving their lives for their Faith, calling upon the Name of Jesus.

It is obvious to the saved here... No one is saved because they are born into a "Christian" family or goes to church, or does good works

So, are the 21 Coptic Christians, who lost their lives for their faith, in heaven because they were martyred (greater love hath no man), or in hell because they are not sola fides, sola scriptura, self-Bible-interpreting “born-again” people who say they follow Jesus?

As one of the damned, that is, a Catholic (as you once were, noting your home page), I'm curious as to what you think, in light of your aforementioned post.

Those listed after you were in the post and thus pinged out of courtesy. I apologize to anyone after the ellipsis, I couldn't retrieve your names.

84 posted on 03/02/2015 9:50:56 PM PST by Grateful2God (Oh dear Jesus, Oh merciful Jesus, Oh Jesus, son of Mary, have mercy on me. Amen.)
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