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To: CpnHook
If "all" in Scripture meant in every case "each and every one with no exception," then you would have a point as to Mary. But most often it isn't used in that absolute sense.

The catholic position on this would place Mary on the same level as Christ as we know He did not sin nor was He born into sin. There can be no other implication for the catholic. This is why, in party, the catholic appeals to mary for salvation. A lot of this mindset is behind the fifth marian dogma to proclaim mary as coredemtrix, advocate and helper.

To continue to believe in the false teaching that mary was without sin, born without sin, never sinned, etc, the catholic has to ignore these, amongst other, verses in the Bible.

1 Peter 2:22-24

For you have been called for this purpose, since Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example for you to follow in His steps, 22WHO COMMITTED NO SIN, NOR WAS ANY DECEIT FOUND IN HIS MOUTH; 23and while being reviled, He did not revile in return; while suffering, He uttered no threats, but kept entrusting Himself to Him who judges righteously; 24and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.

Galatains 2:15-21

“We are Jews by nature and not sinners from among the Gentiles; 16nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified. 17“But if, while seeking to be justified in Christ, we ourselves have also been found sinners, is Christ then a minister of sin? May it never be! 18“For if I rebuild what I have once destroyed, I prove myself to be a transgressor. 19“For through the Law I died to the Law, so that I might live to God. 20“I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me. 21“I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly.”

344 posted on 02/16/2015 6:33:51 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
The catholic position on this would place Mary on the same level as Christ

No. Christ was pure and sinless of his own inherent nature. Mary was conceived in a state of grace and preserved free from sin by the grace of God. It's not of her doing, but His.

To continue to believe in the false teaching that mary was without sin, born without sin, never sinned, etc, the catholic has to ignore these, amongst other, verses in the Bible.

Huh? 1 Pet. 2 says Jesus was sinless (I agree). Gal 2 is speaking to Paul's theme of justification by grace and not the law; I don't see how that verse creates a problem when I just said Mary was preserved by God's grace.

422 posted on 02/17/2015 11:35:23 AM PST by CpnHook
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