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To: metmom
Where is magisterium in Scripture? Where is catechism in Scripture?

Christ established a Church. Not a Bible.

“And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church."; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it Mat 6:18

Christ established His Church as The pillar and foundation of Truth - “But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.” 1Tim 3:15

Christ wants us to be one, not many.
“I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought. My brothers, some from Chloe's household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. What I mean is this: One of you says, "I follow Paul"; another, "I follow Apollos"; another, "I follow Cephas"; still another, "I follow Christ." Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Paul? I am thankful that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, so no one can say that you were baptized into my name. (Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don't remember if I baptized anyone else.) For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel—not with words of human wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power. 1Cor 1:10-17

You could easily read the above as “One of you says, "I follow Luther"; another, "I follow Calvin"; another, "I follow Wesley"; still another, "I follow Christ."

Christians cannot be “perfectly united in mind and thought” when they have different beliefs on, say, the necessity of water baptism, while others believe “This is my Body” means “This is a cookie”

Christ gave many powers to His Church. Christ gave authority to the Church.

“"Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. Mat 18:18. So, seriously, if the Church establishes a Magisterium or a Catechism, it is bound in Heaven. And we know this because Christ PROMISED that HIS Church would always teach the Truth.: “I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.” John 16:12-13

God bless in your journey to the truth.

265 posted on 02/14/2015 2:08:37 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

I found the Truth.

He lives in me.

And it isn’t from participating in a religious system of works.

Jesus told us that HE is the Truth and the WORD is the Truth.

Jesus never said the church was the truth.


271 posted on 02/14/2015 2:22:01 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: FatherofFive
“And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church."; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it Mat 6:18

Ooops!

You need to fix your C&P function.


Matthew 6:18 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

That thou appear not to men to fast, but to thy Father who is in secret: and thy Father who seeth in secret, will repay thee.

305 posted on 02/15/2015 2:27:01 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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