What I said still stands: And yet not a single Catholic here has ever denied any of the verses you posted nor ever once claimed that Jesus or the Apostles were liars about anything. And I would find it hard to believe you don’t know that fact either. So I have no idea who these “Catholic anti-Protestants” you refer to are since no Catholic here has ever done what you just asserted.
Catholics disagree with Protestant heretical opinions - not verses from scripture.
Let's go back to the post where THIS particular train of thought began, shall we:
Concerning this doctrine the Pope of Vatican I, Pius IX, spoke on two different occasions. In an allocution (address to an audience) on December 9th, 1854 he said:
We must hold as of the faith, that out of the Apostolic Roman Church there is no salvation; that she is the only ark of safety, and whosoever is not in her perishes in the deluge; we must also, on the other hand, recognize with certainty that those who are invincible in ignorance of the true religion are not guilty for this in the eyes of the Lord. And who would presume to mark out the limits of this ignorance according to the character and diversity of peoples, countries, minds and the rest?
Again, in his encyclical Quanto conficiamur moerore of 10 August, 1863 addressed to the Italian bishops, he said:
It is known to us and to you that those who are in invincible ignorance of our most holy religion, but who observe carefully the natural law, and the precepts graven by God upon the hearts of all men, and who being disposed to obey God lead an honest and upright life, may, aided by the light of divine grace, attain to eternal life; for God who sees clearly, searches and knows the heart, the disposition, the thoughts and intentions of each, in His supreme mercy and goodness by no means permits that anyone suffer eternal punishment, who has not of his own free will fallen into sin. https://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/outside_the_church.htm
64 posted on Sunday, January 25, 2015 10:06:17 PM by vladimir998
So, not only did you once again presume disagreement with what Catholicism teaches means a poster is a "Protestant anti-Catholic", you assume it was done in ignorance of what Catholicism teaches. Rnmomof7 is quite familiar with RC teaching. The topic was Catholicism's dogma of outside of the Roman Catholic church no one can be saved, which has since been "reformulated positively" (how's that for weasel words?) to exempt those who Catholicism excuses as invincibly ignorant. It applies to those who, they claim, CAN be saved outside of the RCC if they don't know any better and if they live according the "dictates of their own consciences" - in essence saying if they are "good people" in their own eyes.
My contention was and remains that Scripture gives no such "out" to anyone capable of recognizing their sinful human state and need of a Savior. God said he has made Himself known through His creation so that no man has any cop-out for not knowing He exists. He placed within each of us an innate knowledge of His invisible qualities — His eternal power and divine nature — have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. (Rom. 1:20).
In order for your church to state such things as dogma, many Scriptures to the contrary have to be ignored or denied - presuming the writer to either be wrong or lying. I don't see how you can get around that. Non-Catholic Freepers disagree with Catholic heretical opinions and doctrines because God's word disagrees. It doesn't make us anti-Catholic, just anti-Catholicism. There are plenty of Catholic anti-Protestants here and they don't care to hide it. I find it hard to believe you don't know that fact either.
You toss the "Protestant anti-Catholic" label around quite a bit here. You have also asserted anyone who is a Christian but not a Catholic is by default a Protestant - no matter how many times others have rejected that catch-all name. It seems only fair that the same reasoning you use to decide who fits be turned back at you and that's where we find Catholic anti-Protestants. If you don't see any that exist here could it be perhaps because your mirror is smudged?