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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

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>> “If your position is that men are saved by works, then the opposite is true.” <<

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That suggestion is a strawman if it is in response to anything I have ever said.

We are saved as a result of the faith that is propelled by God’s grace. That faith’s action within us is to produce the works that Yeshua has demanded of us, and which he and his apostles assure us are always present if the faith is real.

God’s word allegorizes this as “writing his law on our hearts.”

You clearly do not understand any part of Paul’s epistle to his Roman sheep if your first paragraph is any indication. Perhaps that is all that you are able to understand of it.


80 posted on 01/16/2015 3:07:58 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; .45 Long Colt
We are saved as a result of the faith that is propelled by God’s grace. That faith’s action within us is to produce the works that Yeshua has demanded of us, and which he and his apostles assure us are always present if the faith is real.

Well then this is purely orthodox, if I am understanding it correctly, and represents no contradiction to anything I wrote, and I disagree with nothing in it. Neither would Long Colt. We all agree that good works is the fruit of living faith. Yet you still disagreed with what I wrote and were arguing with him (I did not look at the larger exchange between you and him, however)? Instead of just responding as you have done, be specific. Quote what I wrote and what you have a problem with, otherwise it would lead me to believe that you are not as orthodox as you seem to be.

83 posted on 01/16/2015 3:17:06 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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