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Why The Gays Are Winning
http://www.patheos.com ^ | May 20, 2014 | Fr. Dwight Longenecker

Posted on 05/21/2014 3:34:37 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

Those who believe in traditional marriage had better get used to it. We’ve lost this battle in the culture wars. The homosexualists have succeeded in framing their situation as a struggle. Increasingly their gay pride will be seen as a struggle for equal rights and those who oppose their proclivities will be branded as racists and once that is accomplished the use of force against those who stand for marriage will begin.

If you want to know why the gays are winning read Robert R. Reilly’s excellent new book Making Gay Okay: How Rationalizing Homosexual Behavior Is Changing Everything. Brad Miner has an excellent review of the book here. I can’t add much to Brad’s review. He’s written what I would have written. The best thing about the book is that Reilly explains what’s happening within the gay agenda with an objective, critical stance. He simply reports what’s going on. Just the facts ma’am. The most brilliant thing is that he does so without reference to the Catholic faith, the Bible or any other religious connection. This makes his argument all the stronger for he allows the facts to speak for themselves and never has to pose or get preachy.

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Should be titled, "Why the Sodomites Are Winning". I refuse to use the word gay to describe abhorent sexual behavior. And I would like to add another major reason the sodomites are winning. They are winning because unelected robed tyrants are overruling the will of the people on a daily basis. When I say unelected I am including the US Supreme Court, especially liberals like Anthony Kennedy that are forcing degenerate, un-Godly sexual perversion on American society just because he feels like it's the right thing to do. Afterall, he knows more than God, and our Founding Fathers, including James Madison, who wrote the Constitution. He knows more than any society in the history of the world; no society has ever allowed sodomite "marriage". So it's the robed tyrants like Kennedy that we have to worry about. They are the ones destroying all that's decent and good about America.
1 posted on 05/21/2014 3:34:37 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet
the use of force against those who stand for marriage will begin.

The use of force will begin because wimps like this author just roll over and accept that the battle is lost. It isn't. Not while one person with conscience has the guts to stand and say "No!" That is a courage this writer obviously lacks.

2 posted on 05/21/2014 3:37:19 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: NKP_Vet

Gays are not gay,they are homosexuals and need to be refers to in that way,PERIOD.
Any time one speaks of them in a social gathering they need yo be referred to as Homosexuals.
Please


3 posted on 05/21/2014 3:37:58 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: NKP_Vet

They are winning because the large majority of Americans have turned their backs on God. They are a symptom, not the problem.


4 posted on 05/21/2014 3:39:28 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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Why The Gays Are Winning

The unconstitutional 1964 Civil Rights Act emboldening even more unconstitutional federal interference later.

5 posted on 05/21/2014 3:40:01 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: CGASMIA68

Well, I usually refer to them as deviants, but I agree with your overall point.


6 posted on 05/21/2014 3:41:17 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Unless we all start praying every evening, the Lord is going to take his vengeance.

It can be stopped. Pray.


7 posted on 05/21/2014 3:43:05 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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You can win a battle but still lose the war. Do they think they can change 3 billion years of evolution telling us instinctively that homosexuality is unnatural? That’s it’s wrong for a vast number of reasons? That it’s nowhere to be found in the DNA for all the silly stupid claims they make that they’re “born that way”?


8 posted on 05/21/2014 3:43:53 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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Not to worry.

They will “screw” it up.

In so many ways.

Just wait.

And thanks to their immeasurable obnoxiousness, when the pendulum swings back....it will be very unpleasant.


9 posted on 05/21/2014 3:44:17 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: NKP_Vet

Its not just the gays.

Its everyone who is trying to redefine right and wrong to be something different than the Judeo-Christian standard; whether gay rights, envy morality (socialism), abortion, etc.

Societies historically go through periods where they reject God, and rebel against His precepts, and that’s where we are.
The alliance includes any group which is in rebellion against God, whether they agree with each other or not.

We can only pray that God will cause the hearts of this people to return to Him.


10 posted on 05/21/2014 3:44:29 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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Well, I will slightly disagree with you. The reason they are winning is that America has forgotten that law is based on morals, not “fairness”. And, the moral base that was previously agreed upon was the Bible. It did not require that we kill homosexuals (any longer, since that was the Mosaic Law), but it clearly set out that adultery, homosexuality, dishonesty, thievery, murder, even gossip were wrong and not to be encouraged. The society has abandoned this view and taken up a non-existent, mish-mash of competing claims as the new moral foundation. Collapse will likely follow.

But, actually, the public is directing this march into oblivion. And, many of the so-called Christian organizations are falling into the same hole. We no longer look to the Scriptures to guide our lawmaking, we look to degenerate opinion.


11 posted on 05/21/2014 3:45:00 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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They are not winning... They will never have a traditional marriage or sacramental marriage that involves God. It will forever be a gay marriage. Heck, they are even incapable of consummating the phony marriage they pretend to have.


12 posted on 05/21/2014 3:46:31 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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Call me crazy, but I feel its all connected to our financial system.

Governments with fiat currencies and central banks can steadily fund any long-term social-engineering project. Minor crisis that would cause dislocation and automatic corrections to society can be avoided (at least until long-delayed massive crisis occur).

As the philosopher Alexander Fraser said: “From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to complacency; From complacency to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.” We are at apathy and dependence from long-term “abundance.”


13 posted on 05/21/2014 3:49:42 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: NKP_Vet

There are only three possible successful responses:

1) A tremendous outpouring of grace by God.

2) Violence to put down the evil.

3) A combination of the two.


14 posted on 05/21/2014 3:49:47 PM PDT by vladimir998
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When is someeone going to ask the proponents of same-sex ‘marriage’ which other words are they going to REDEFINE to make some people feel better about themselves? For MILLENIA the word marriage has meant the union of one man and one woman. WHAT WORD WILL BE NEXT?


15 posted on 05/21/2014 3:49:58 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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The most brilliant thing is that he does so without reference to the Catholic faith, the Bible or any other religious connection. This makes his argument all the stronger for he allows the facts to speak for themselves and never has to pose or get preachy.

There is a certain amount of merit to this kind of approach, but those who avoid the so-called "religious connect," I have always felt, do some damage to the scripture. Is not the Bible its own authority? And what difference does it make if we convince a person that homosexuality is disordered, if they are still not converted? The goal of our assault against the infidels should not be to get them to simply hold to a few of our positions, which might as well be described as political positions when detached from the context of Christianity. Our true goal should be evangelism, in bringing people to conversion entirely, going hand in hand with our war against abortion and homosexuality. Without the Holy Spirit, these people cannot even comprehend anything, and so would never side with us to begin with.

16 posted on 05/21/2014 3:50:11 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: CGASMIA68

I prefer ‘extinctionists’

As Darwin (didn’t) say ‘the wages of sin are extinction’


17 posted on 05/21/2014 3:50:35 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: babygene

I agree with him. It doesn’t mean I have to like it, but I think he’s right.
Any swinging back if the pendulum will probably happen long after I’m dead.


18 posted on 05/21/2014 3:50:44 PM PDT by crazycatlady
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cause we have a filthy queer squatting in the white hut???

19 posted on 05/21/2014 3:51:44 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: NKP_Vet; IronJack; CGASMIA68
Ditto on refusal to use the word "gay" to describe homosexuals male or female.

Why are homosexuals "winning"?

Because of one single component:Government.

Homosexuals have the force of government behind them to threaten with punishment any who refuse to go along with pretend "marriages" between homosexuals.

WITHOUT government, the entire "culture war" topic of homosexual marriage would be dead in the water. Employers, lawyers, hospitals, adoption agencies, landlords, schools, matchmaking businesses, wedding caterers, the military, etc. etc., would deal with it civilly and peacefully in their own ways, and if human nature AND history are any guide, the vast majority would refuse to play along with the homosexual game.

Indeed, that the majority does refuse is the very reason homosexuals need to have government involved. Government is solely a force, nothing less, nothing more. George Washington said it is a "FORCE" that is "a dangerous servant." Best to use such a force sparingly -- THIS is what happens, homosexuals "winning," when that FORCE is used profusely.

GOVERNMENT FORCE is the only reason homosexuals are perceived as "winning the culture war." Homosexuals require force of government behind them because without it, they would LOSE the culture war.

In social and moral issues as in economic ones, government is the problem. Morality and decency WIN when government is reduced.

20 posted on 05/21/2014 3:51:54 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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