[metmom]

The reading that since the fullness of grace preceded the arrival of the angel it must have been there from her conception; and that grace does not go stale once received, and that God has the power to raise any kind of Mary He wants for His own mother, and probably would not want a sinner in that role

Yeah, those stinking sinners. Who needs them? They're just not good enough for God. Or for God to even use.

Romans 5:6-8 For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die—but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Another thing to note.... If you think that Mary was sinless and yet still full of grace, it appears that you do not have the slightest clue what grace is all about.

One cannot be graced if one is without sin. Grace is ONLY for sinners.

So Mary cannot be sinless and yet graced. The whole premise of Mary being sinless falls apart.

[annalex]

Grace is ONLY for sinners

LOL. Where you get your ideas from? Grace is presence of God, regardless of who is or is not around it. For example, before the Fall Adam and Eve were in grace.

[Elsie]

Yeah, those stinking sinners. Who needs them? They're just not good enough for God. Or for God to even use.

THIS, in #1107, has been COMPLETELY ignored!

 

HMMMmmm that ol' Matthew includes a HOOKER and an ADULTERER in the lineage!!