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To: mdmathis6

>> Well okay then, according to you the church doesn’t escape
“the wrath to come” <<

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That is a nonsensical statement.

You fail to see the difference between Satan’s 3.5 year tribulation of the elect, and Yehova’s ten day Wrath that comes immediately thereafter.

You also invent events that cannot even happen.

The giant hailstones are a part of Yehova’s ten day wrath on those that did take the mark. That occurs after the trib is over. The earthquakes “all over the world at once” are at the beginning of the 70th week, and are experienced by all.

None of your mixed up interpretations have any scripture to back them up.

We are given one wake-up event to watch for by Yeshua in Matthew 24: The abomination that begins Satan’s tribulation that we will all go through if we live that long.

We are presently in the 5th seal, and the 6th seal is poised to occur soon. It will be an aerial thermonuclear war against Judah primarily. You won’t want to be in Jerusalem then.


218 posted on 03/22/2014 10:15:57 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Listen there are 3 major points of view when it comes the rapture of the saints and the end all and be all. All have major points of scripture that seem to back them up as well as major issues. I wasn’t attempting to put anything in any chronological order. I’ve read just about every scripture, heard every kind of teaching, regarding prophecy. The major emphasis in my circles and with the preaching I heard growing up has been on a pre-trib rapture(the church is spared all)As I’ve aged and compared and contrasted prophecies from Old Testament to new I’ve become more of a mid to late trib sort of rapture believer.(In my gut I’m closer to your point of view than even you realize) I’m definitely post trib millenialist...the Old Testament is filled with scriptures speaking of the Messiah ruling out of Israel, coupled with what life will be like at that time...obviously a lot of people will be around even after Christ comes to rule with his saints (and they’ll be ruled with that rod of Iron as Revelations says they will). Revelations also speaks of a definite 1000 year reign upon the earth before Satan is loosed for a season.

Now as for the “last trump” I seen raging argument’s over that one as well...one that it refers to one of the jewish feasts coupled the blowing of trumpets but the timing of the last trumpet was indeterminate but you had to be ready for when it did blow so one could worship appropriately...and this has been conflated with the coming of Christ...especially in reference to the Revelation’s 7 angels with the 7 trumpets, then the 7 bowls, then the 7 vial judgments. Could all be true. Mid trib...a lot of things start popping....just sayin’!


220 posted on 03/22/2014 11:24:46 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (American Christians can help Amersca best by remembering that we are Heaven's citizens first!)
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