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“So do Catholics.”

No. I have never once seen a Catholic lie here. I have seen Catholics make mistakes, post erroneous information, etc. I have only seen anti-Catholics lie. One or two have even admitted that they lied when pressed to do so.

“And Catholics do not like to admit that the Apocrypha was not considered useful for doctrine by many leading Catholic theologians until Trent, and technically even Trent didn’t answer that question.”

There was no question to answer.

“… we reject the idea that scripture can be useless for doctrine.”

So do we.

“The Decree Concerning the Canonical Scriptures was at the 4th Session of Trent in 1546. Twenty years passed before the term “Deuterocanonical” was invented and replaced “Apocrypha” in Roman Catholic usage. Why?”

No other term was needed previously because Protestantism, the new heresy, was challenging what had not been challenged in hundreds of years.

“Notice: Done in response to the Council of Trent, 4th session, 1546, the Clementine Vulgate “removed 3 and 4 Esdras and the Prayer of Manasses from the Old Testament and placed them as Apocrypha into an appendix following the New Testament.”

And?

“So what word would distinguish the “Apocrypha”, used for 1000 years, from the list Trent approved? Thus the word “Deuterocanonical” was invented to describe those passages that were listed by Trent, in contrast to the Apocrypha that had been accepted by the Catholic church for edification, at least, for many centuries.”

And? Previously the books were simply referred to by their names. And?

“And in rejecting the Apocrypha and/or Deuterocanonical books as being authoritative for doctrine, we are merely doing what many in the Catholic Church did from the time of Jerome, and which the Catholic Church still allows - although the Catholic Church believes a canonical book can be one that is good for edification, but not doctrine...a stance the Apostles would have been confused by.”

Your assertion is false.

I got as far as this:

“No. I have never once seen a Catholic lie here. I have seen Catholics make mistakes, post erroneous information, etc. I have only seen anti-Catholics lie.”

And decided not to bother reading the rest of your response. Your sense of reality doesn’t match what I’ve seen here, and I suspect many Catholics would agree with me. The religion forum, unfortunately, is the least honest and most vitriolic part of FreeRepublic.