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Jesuit priest cites Pope Francis in praising Catholic student activism backing gay marriage
LifeSIte News ^ | Fri Jan 24, 2014 | Matthew Archbold

Posted on 01/25/2014 12:55:13 PM PST by ebb tide

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To: ebb tide
According to this article, from L'Espresso (LINK), the Pope was not an enabler of this Ricca guy, but a victim of a conspiracy of lies:

"In effect, some of these 'bosses' have hatched against Jorge Mario Bergoglio the cruelest and most subtle deception since he was elected pope.

"They kept in the dark important information that, if he had known it before, would have kept him from appointing Monsignor Battista Ricca "prelate” of the Institute for Works of Religion.

[Ricca] won Bergoglio's trust in another guise, initially as director of the residence on Via della Scrofa at which the archbishop of Buenos Aries stayed during his visits to Rome, and now also as director of the Domus Sanctæ Marthæ (!!) in which Francis has chosen to live as pope.

"Before the appointment, Francis had been shown, as is customary, the personal file on Ricca, in which he had not found anything unseemly. He had also heard from various personalities of the curia, and none of them had raised objections.

"Just one week after appointing the “prelate,” however, during the same days in which he was meeting with the apostolic nuncios who had come to Rome from all over the world, the pope became aware, from multiple sources, of some episodes from Ricca's past previously unknown to him and such as to bring serious harm to the pope himself and to his intention of reform.

Sadness over having been kept in the dark with regard to such grave matters, and the intention to remedy the appointment he had made, albeit not definitive but “ad interim": these were the sentiments expressed by Pope Francis once he was aware of those matters.

From the rest of the L'Espresso article, it looks like this Ricca is a kingpin, a heavily-connected ringleader of the "Gay Lobby." Nauseating.

Watch and pray.

41 posted on 01/25/2014 6:14:12 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Sanity is the adequate response of the mind to the real thing: adaequatio mentis ad rem.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Unless you know with moral certainty that Ricca is a sodomite, this statement of yours constitutes slander by insinuation (since I assume that by "twinkletoes" you mean "sodomite," not Irish step dancer.) It requires, from you or anyone who repeats it, not just repentance but restitution.

So should we ignore the published reports of this man's activities because we haven't observed his illicit behavior firsthand? Perhaps we should also give Bill Clinton the benefit of the doubt. Let's not set the standard for public figures so ridiculously high that we ignore multiple published reports out of misplaced scruples. This man's behavior is well-known, yet Pope Francis appointed him. What does that tell us about his judgement?

42 posted on 01/25/2014 6:16:04 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I agree the pope was probably tricked. But why has the Pope continued to retain Ricca in his current positions?


43 posted on 01/25/2014 6:21:35 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: BlatherNaut
See #21. I had never heard of Ricca before. I'm in the process of being introduced to, and evaluating the evidence. There seems to be a lot on the Internet from the Italian press stating that this Msgr. Ricca is a sodomite. It's not proof, but it's as "proofy" as it gets on the Internet.

If you will look at my previous post (above) you'll see that L'Espresso puts forward evidence that Pope Francis was the victim of this man's network of lies --- the Holy Father was not negligent,nor acting on poor judgment, but rather betrayed by advisors who deceived him.

It's frightening: Pope Francis decided not to live in the previous Papal apartment because it was undoubtedly wired --- and he ends up at Domus Sanctae Marthae, "managed" by none other than Msgr. Ricca!

Again I say, frightening.

44 posted on 01/25/2014 6:29:40 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Sanity is the adequate response of the mind to the real thing: adaequatio mentis ad rem.)
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To: ebb tide
I have never been into curial politics, and I can only say as an outsider that it looks as if Francis has been dropped into the middle of a deadly chess game --- like some kind of dystopian horror movie. Ricca has connections (so they say) with the Mafia, and the Mafia is ready, willing, and able to kill.

Ricca no doubt knows he's been outed (he reads Italian like everybody else) but the question is, how do you know the next guy in line isn't his secret ally?

I've even heard that Pope Francis might just close the IOR. Desperate times, desperate measures.

Watch and pray.

45 posted on 01/25/2014 6:35:51 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Sanity is the adequate response of the mind to the real thing: adaequatio mentis ad rem.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

In 2006, Pope Benedict removed Marcial Maciel Degollado, founder of the Legionaries of Christ from his position and ordered him to a life of prayer and penance. This order was due to Maciel’s past sexual sins, not ongoing ones.

Bishop of Rome, Francis, apparently has different plans for homos under his jurisdiction.


46 posted on 01/25/2014 7:00:55 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Watch and pray.


47 posted on 01/25/2014 7:04:02 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Sanity is the adequate response of the mind to the real thing: adaequatio mentis ad rem.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I had never heard of Ricca before. I'm in the process of being introduced to, and evaluating the evidence. There seems to be a lot on the Internet from the Italian press stating that this Msgr. Ricca is a sodomite.

So why were you so quick to accuse me of slander and demanding not only my repentance, but restitution?

48 posted on 01/25/2014 7:07:24 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

It’s obvious that the spirit of insanity and evil is abroad in the Church no less than before Benedict.

In fact, the reaction to Francis’s many imprudent statements makes clear how much hatred of Benedict there has been in the Church, just waiting to come out in the open.

And now he’s writing an encyclical on the environment! Who wants to bet that he’ll denounce the kleptocrats behind the Global Warming Hoax?

Or who wants to bet that it will be another gift to be exploited by the eugenicists and other fascists?


49 posted on 01/25/2014 7:12:03 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Obviously, when he was elected Pope, he was replaced by a double.


50 posted on 01/25/2014 7:13:10 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
And now he’s writing an encyclical on the environment!

So true, Father! And did you catch this recent statement by Pope Francis:

God always forgives, we sometimes forgive, but when nature - creation - is mistreated, she never forgives.

"She" may not forgive, but she can be fooled; just like popes can be fooled.

51 posted on 01/25/2014 7:27:45 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It's frightening: Pope Francis decided not to live in the previous Papal apartment because it was undoubtedly wired --- and he ends up at Domus Sanctae Marthae, "managed" by none other than Msgr. Ricca!

I read that he stated that he didn't want to live there because he was afraid of being robbed...Apparently it was supposed to be funny...I thought it was...

52 posted on 01/25/2014 7:38:50 PM PST by Iscool
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Pope Francis says he has no wish to live in the apostolic apartments inhabited by previous pontiffs “for psychiatric reasons”.

“Why don’t I go to live in the Apostolic Palace? For psychiatric reasons!” Francis told students from Jesuit schools at the Vatican.

“I need to live with other people. I don’t think it would be good for me to live alone,” the 76-year-old Pope said.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/pope-francis-shuns-papal-house-for-psychiatric-reasons-377045


53 posted on 01/25/2014 8:23:09 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Again I say, frightening.

Yes, it's bad. The modernists whom Pope St. Pius X warned us about have managed to gain the upper hand. It's as though a different Church is forming before our very eyes. It's been going on for years, but now Pope Francis has brought it out into the open. He's one of their own.

54 posted on 01/25/2014 8:31:09 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: SubMareener
The Bible is also quite clear that the Harlot of Babylon will have her capital in the city of seven hills. m

oh, please....

55 posted on 01/25/2014 9:09:13 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: Steve_Seattle
For years, I have strongly suspected that the pastor of Seattle’s Roman Catholic cathedral (St. James) is gay - he very much looks the part, and he has tolerated openly gay - and newly elected mayor - Ed Murray to receive communion for many years.

I know several gays and none of them "looks the part"...what the hell does that mean????and the openly gay mayor is certainly welcome at communion because you have no idea of what actions he is involved in ......being gay is not a sin, an active homosexual relationship, of course, is.

56 posted on 01/25/2014 9:16:31 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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Revelation 17 Note verse 9 where the angel explains that "The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits." That is about as clear as it gets in the Book of Revelation.
57 posted on 01/25/2014 9:46:33 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: terycarl
"I know several gays and none of them "looks the part"...what the hell does that mean????and the openly gay mayor is certainly welcome at communion because you have no idea of what actions he is involved in ......being gay is not a sin, an active homosexual relationship, of course, is."

The mayor - Ed Murray - is openly married to a man. There was a picture of them on the front page of the local newspaper. I consider that to be an active homosexual relationship. You don't?

As for your other point, I am well aware that there are several styles of gayness. Some are stereotypical, some are not. My comment about the pastor was prompted by many years of observing what has been going on at the cathedral, including administration of communion to known practicing homosexuals. My comment that "he looks the part" was an unfortunate oversimplification of my observations. The recent events at nearby Eastside Catholic High School have done nothing but confirm my impression of widespread gay infiltration into church organizations in the Seattle area.
58 posted on 01/25/2014 10:22:55 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle
Clarification - instead of "looks the part" I probably should have said "plays the part." His looks are just part of the whole dynamic, and that is why I made the unfortunate oversimplification.

The Seattle Catholic cathedral has been very gay friendly for a long time, and "gay friendly" means tolerating gay practices, not just orientation. Guess what - I have an inborn inclination to promiscuity with women - does that mean - as gays claim for themselves - that our natural inclinations justify our behavior, and that I can therefore have sex with any woman I want?
59 posted on 01/25/2014 10:31:07 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: terycarl
I know several gays and none of them "looks the part"...what the hell does that mean????

Identifying a man as a homosexual is not exactly a rare bit of awareness, many of us can read people well enough to spot homosexuals.

60 posted on 01/25/2014 11:01:56 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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