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Vanishing Catholics
hprweb ^ | December 23, 2013 | FR. WILLIAM P. CLARK, OMI

Posted on 12/28/2013 3:59:04 PM PST by NYer

According to recent demographic surveys, it seems there are presently 30 million people in the U.S. who identify themselves as “former Catholics.” That figure is both surprising, and, for Catholics, disheartening.

Over the past 50 years or so, a profound change, other than that effected by Vatican II, has taken place in the Catholic Church. It might be described as the phenomenon of “vanishing Catholics.” The Canadian philosopher, Charles Taylor, has identified four major challenges facing the Church today. First on his list is the exodus of young adults from the Church. According to recent demographic surveys, it seems there are presently 30 million people in the U.S. who identify themselves as “former Catholics.” That figure is both surprising, and, for Catholics, disheartening. It represents a little less than 10 percent of the total population of this country. It also means that had those persons remained Catholic, approximately one in three Americans would be identified as Catholic. Only two religious groups represent a larger percentage of the U.S. population: Protestants (cumulatively) and current Catholics.

This phenomenon is disheartening not only for bishops and priests, but also for faithful Catholics generally. Many older Catholics are saddened at the sight of their children and grandchildren abandoning the Church.

Questions naturally arise. What has caused such a massive defection? How might one account for this phenomenon? It hardly seems possible that any single factor could explain a phenomenon of such magnitude. Various reasons for people leaving the Church are well-known. Many of them have been operative from the earliest times of Christianity. In his first letter to Timothy, St. Paul reminds him that “The Spirit has explicitly said that during the last times some will desert the faith and pay attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines …” (1 Tm 4:1-7). In his first letter to the Corinthians, Paul speaks of dissensions and divisions among the faithful (1 Cor 1:10-16).

From the first centuries up to modern times, there have been doctrinal differences (heresies) which led to great numbers separating themselves from the Roman Catholic Church. Many others have left the Church for what can be described as practical reasons, rather than doctrinal differences.

Among the latter, there are many who separated themselves from the Church because of marriage problems. There are those who left because they became greatly dissatisfied with inadequate preaching, uninviting liturgy, and minimal hospitality in their parishes. It seems worth noting that expecting church attendance and public worship to be therapeutically satisfying often leads to disappointment and eventual alienation.

Not a few have left the Church because of real or perceived mistreatment by bishops or pastors. Reactions have a way of becoming overreactions. An overreaction to clericalism and paternalism in the Church resulted in autonomy becoming absolute. Evelyn Underhill offered a helpful analogy in this regard. She likened the Church to the Post Office. Both provide an essential service, but it is always possible to find an incompetent and annoying clerk behind the counter. Persons who expect all representatives of the Church to live up to the ideals proposed by the Church will typically become disillusioned and leave. Persons with such expectations would have left the Church of the Holy Apostles.

Most recently, a cause for many leaving the Church is the scandal of clergy sexual abuse. This has been a stumbling block not only for those directly affected, but for Catholics generally. Because of the questionable role played by a number of bishops, their moral authority is diminished. The time when bishops could command is past. Now, they can only hope to persuade and invite. Loyalty to bishops had been widely identified with loyalty to the Church. As the former loyalty diminished, so did the latter.

Clearly there are times when the Church is more of an obstacle than a help to faith. At Vatican II, the Council Fathers pointed out that the Church is always in danger of concealing, rather than revealing, the authentic features of Christ. Often enough, members of the Church’s leadership have been guilty of a sin typical of many religious teachers—namely, being more concerned about preservation of their authority than about the truth.

While specific reasons can be cited, it is helpful to recognize several underlying attitudes that are operative. (1) There is an anti-dogmatic spirit which is suspicious of the Church’s emphasis on fidelity to traditional teachings. (2) There is the widespread belief that one can be free to ignore, deny, or minimize one or more received doctrines without feeling compelled to break with the Church. (3) There is also the belief that, guided by their own conscience, regardless of how that matches—or fails to match—generally accepted Catholic teaching, persons can develop their own understanding of what it means to be Catholic. Someone has coined a phrase that describes persons with those attitudes, calling them “cafeteria Catholics,” i.e., those who pick and choose what to accept of official Catholic teaching and ignore the rest.

Two questions arise in the face of the phenomenon of “vanishing Catholics.” One question is of a more theological and ecclesial level: are those departed to be considered heretics or schismatics? A second question arises at the practical level: how can those who have left be reunited with the Church? Regarding the first question, it is worth noting that, while speaking of dissension and division among the faithful, and of separation from the community of believers, the New Testament does not make a distinction between heresy and schism. Since the definition of the Pope’s primacy of jurisdiction, it is difficult to see how there can be a schism that is not a heresy.

According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church (§2089), heresy “is the obstinate, post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and Catholic faith, or it is, likewise, an obstinate doubt concerning the same.” Schism is “the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff, or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.” The Theological Dictionary, compiled by Karl Rahner and Herbert Vorgrimler, defines heresy as “primarily an error in matters of faith. The heretic takes a truth out of the organic whole, which is the faith, and because he looks at it in isolation, misunderstands it, or else denies a dogma.” “Schism occurs when a baptized person refuses to be subject to the Pope, or to live in communion with the members of the Church, who are subject to the Pope.”

In any case, given the variety of reasons for people leaving the Church, the degree of separation, and especially assuming good will on the part of those leaving, it is difficult to classify them as heretics or schismatics. Church authorities have the right and the duty to take measures against heresy and schism when those become evident. Clear denial of a dogma cannot be tolerated. But between this and a purely private, material heresy, there are many shades. Not every challenge to accepted theology is heretical. There are many partial non-identifications that endanger faith and unity but do not rise to the level of schism. Nor does every act of disobedience to human laws in the Church imply schism.

While speculative questions about heresy and schism are significant and need to be addressed, they pale in comparison to the practical question of how those departed can be reunited with the Church. That question is as complex as are the reasons for people leaving the Church. That question is further complicated when one addresses the question of the underlying attitudes that are operative.

Obviously, the Church must work at removing any obstacles to reunion. With Vatican II, that work was begun. The Council recognized the Church is semper reformanda, always needing to be reformed. The actual return of individuals requires something more than an adjustment in Church practices or new programs. It is a matter of God touching the individual with his grace.

A final question that can prove troubling is how the massive defection from the Church is to be reconciled with God’s providence. This is simply one of many instances in which we are challenged to believe in an omnipotent God, who is also a loving, provident Father. Providence is not an occasional, intrusive, manipulative presence, but one that is with us both in tragedy and in joy, in the joy that consists not so much in the absence of suffering, as in the awareness of God’s presence. To find the strength to experience calmly the difficulties and trials that come into our lives is a tremendous challenge. If, however, we are able to do that, every event can be “providential.” In a sermon on the feast of the Ascension, Pope Leo the Great said: “For those who abandon themselves to God’s providential love, faith does not fail, hope is not shaken, and charity does not grow cold.”

There can be a very subtle, almost imperceptible temptation to think we know better than God how things should be. We can be like the naive little girl, who, in her prayers, told God that if she were in God’s place, she would make the world better. And God replied: “That is exactly what you should be doing.”


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1 posted on 12/28/2013 3:59:04 PM PST by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...
There is no one reason and this is happening in other churches, as well. The best explanation for this shift and movement, was provided by (then) Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger in his PRO ELIGENDO ROMANO PONTIFICE, delivered at the mass preceding the conclave that elected him pope. Referring to the 2nd reading at mass that day, he said:

How many winds of doctrine have we known in recent decades, how many ideological currents, how many ways of thinking. The small boat of the thought of many Christians has often been tossed about by these waves - flung from one extreme to another: from Marxism to liberalism, even to libertinism; from collectivism to radical individualism; from atheism to a vague religious mysticism; from agnosticism to syncretism and so forth. Every day new sects spring up, and what St Paul says about human deception and the trickery that strives to entice people into error (cf. Eph 4: 14) comes true.

Today, having a clear faith based on the Creed of the Church is often labeled as fundamentalism. Whereas relativism, that is, letting oneself be "tossed here and there, carried about by every wind of doctrine", seems the only attitude that can cope with modern times. We are building a dictatorship of relativism that does not recognize anything as definitive and whose ultimate goal consists solely of one's own ego and desires.

This homily was delivered on April 18, 2005. Since then, the evidence of his preaching has manifested itself in all too personal a reality for many of us. We raised our children in the Church, ensured they were properly educated and received all of the sacraments yet many of them have slipped away.

Secularism can be a strangle hold to impede the development of one's growth in faith.

2 posted on 12/28/2013 3:59:39 PM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: NYer

I am Catholic but not “practicing”. Until the church starts kicking out some politicians I find no reason to be in the pew.


3 posted on 12/28/2013 4:00:51 PM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: NYer

It’s happening all over American Christianity. People have decided that they don’t need church or religion. Oprah tells them that its more important to be spiritual than religious. They meditate through yoga to “commune with diety”. They stop attending church because they don’t agree with one part of doctrine...and the next church has a different disagreeable piece of doctrine....and the next church another.

Basically, they believe they hold all knowledge on their cell phone. They can publish their beliefs for the whole world to see via the phone everytime they discover that they believe something new. They can reach out and buy things on their phone.

So, they worship the phone. We’ve become a cargo cult.


4 posted on 12/28/2013 4:04:41 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Ghost of SVR4
“Until the church starts kicking out some politicians I find no reason to be in the pew.”

I never left the church - the church left me.

Go back to the principals and teachings that were followed when I was growing up in the 50’s and 60’s and I will be there. Unfortunately, sometime starting in the late 1960’s the Church was hijacked by some kind of ultra liberal nincompoops. As the Church lurched to the left, I chose not to go. And have no regrets. In fact, I would honestly say I barely know the organization that today claims to be the Catholic Church.

5 posted on 12/28/2013 4:06:18 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: NYer
“The Spirit has explicitly said that during the last times some will desert the faith and pay attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines …” (1 Tm 4:1-7).

The problem for me is that the people this describes are those that occupy high and low office in the Church. I refer to the pro-abortion-politician-loving USCCB in particular. And not only do they force public policy, they actively thwart the teaching of proper Catechism and morals.

That's why I left the church - things are so awful by me that I now have serious doubts about the beneficial value of the Eucharist. I wish this were not the case, but I'm seeing a negative correlation between the frequency that a person participates in the sacrament of Communion and the amount of vile (yet sanctimoniously executed) actions taken by them.

It breaks my heart, really (no sarcasm whatsoever), but I can't ignore what's happening.

6 posted on 12/28/2013 4:12:26 PM PST by Yossarian
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To: NYer
>> Over the past 50 years or so, a profound change, other than that effected by Vatican II,

Discovered the cause in the very first sentence yet failed to make the connection.

7 posted on 12/28/2013 4:14:42 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NYer

I don’t have complaints about the Church.


8 posted on 12/28/2013 4:20:34 PM PST by Tax-chick ("Try not to get too far ahead in the story. Spoilers abound." ~ Nicknamedbob)
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To: Ghost of SVR4; I cannot think of a name
Until the church starts kicking out some politicians I find no reason to be in the pew.

Dear friend, before you assume the role of judge, look to the gospels to see how Jesus handled these situations.

Some scribes who were Pharisees saw that he was eating with sinners and tax collectors and said to his disciples, “Why does he eat with tax collectors and sinners?”

Jesus heard this and said to them [that], “Those who are well do not need a physician,* but the sick do. I did not come to call the righteous but sinners.”
Mk 2:16-17

We are all sinners and we all need the Church. Suggesting the church kick out some politicians is a flimsy excuse. The person who suffers from such a decision is ... YOU.

9 posted on 12/28/2013 4:21:44 PM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: Yossarian

See my post #9.


10 posted on 12/28/2013 4:23:05 PM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: I cannot think of a name
I never left the church - the church left me.
I couldn't agree more.
A good first step toward reconciliation would be to excommunicate the pro-abortion politicians like Pelosi and Cuomo - publicly and with great fanfare.
A second step would be to stop telling me that I (America) have to accept and take care of the pooooor illegal aliens.
Good things come in threes so - kick the pedophile/homo priests out into the gutter.
Go in peace ... my rant has ended.
11 posted on 12/28/2013 4:27:52 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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I can definitely see why religion is unappealing to women and women are leaving in droves. The only women who go to church are really old, like some of my aunts in their 60’s.

The only reason my family went to church is because my father dragged my mother and me/sibling down there. He actually liked church. Once he died, we stopped going. It’s a very depressing place.


12 posted on 12/28/2013 4:27:57 PM PST by snowstorm12
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To: NYer
It is a matter of God touching the individual with his grace.

Simple answer: Pray to God for your loved ones and all persons who have left the faith that He may show them the way back. On a personal note from certain members of my own family (my sister and a nephew) who have left the Church, it is my perception that neither one of them seem to have a sense of a "fear of the Lord." They truly have no profound sense of guilt for a sin, which is sad.

13 posted on 12/28/2013 4:28:37 PM PST by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: NYer

Count me in as one of the 30 million former Catholics. Between Kool Aid drinking ultramontanists on the Catholic Right, and illegal alien enablers on the Left, why bother?


14 posted on 12/28/2013 4:44:47 PM PST by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: NYer
We are all sinners and we all need the Church. Suggesting the church kick out some politicians is a flimsy excuse. The person who suffers from such a decision is ... YOU.

Jesus dined with sinners WHO WANTED TO STOP SINNING.

He actually avoided those who He knew would ignore His message.

Quit trying to distort the issue - it's a form of lying. Canon 915 exists for a good and Godly reason.

15 posted on 12/28/2013 4:46:49 PM PST by Yossarian
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To: snowstorm12

Yet women attend religious services at a much higher rate than men, go figure.


16 posted on 12/28/2013 4:48:23 PM PST by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: NYer

Jesus was eating with the lowly which the pharisees did not like. I really don’t think the likes of pelosi would fall into the category. Rather she fits into the category of the rich and powerful whom jesus was always castigating.


17 posted on 12/28/2013 4:48:27 PM PST by what's up
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To: Tax-chick
I don’t have complaints about the Church.
You see no problems?Must be the rest of America that's confused.
18 posted on 12/28/2013 4:49:58 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Clemenza

OH especially in SO CAL with my stupid former Archibisop Telhron Don Roger Mahoney


20 posted on 12/28/2013 4:50:27 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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