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What is Sacred Music? Historically it’s a bit more complex than you may think.
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 12/9/2013 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 12/09/2013 2:05:42 AM PST by markomalley

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To: cva66snipe
Cute song, heard it years ago, but it doesn't reflect reality.

Every choir has a few folks who're a little off the mark. And it's different people on different days. Sometimes, it's me. But that's the way live music is, it isn't perfect and it shouldn't be. Our music director has a riff about Beethoven wanting "a little schmutz in the music" and Richard Strauss complaining when the orchestra played one of his works too correctly - and Thomas Edison predicting that the Victrola would be the end of music because it creates a false ideal of a "perfect" or "definitive" performance.

I listened last night to the audio of our daughter's wedding, and on the recording you can hear occasional errors - standout voices, missed entrances, fluffed cutoffs, wrong notes etc. I missed one entrance in the Mozart "Benedictus". We are definitely not the Tallis Scholars or The Sixteen, although we aspire to that sound. :-D But at the time it sounded glorious and you can't flyspeck these things in retrospect.

As a general rule, unless a singer is outrageously loud it's not a problem, and older cracked-voice folks like Brother Eyer (a forced rhyme for "choir") are completely inaudible beyond the choir loft rail, so nobody worries about it. We have a couple of very elderly people who love singing in the choir, and it would be horribly cruel to disinvite them because they're not hurting anyone.

Even the occasional foghorn bellower (we have one) doesn't need to be tossed out of the choir - our music director asks them to sing a little quieter "for balance" and concentrates on vocal coaching.

You sing the best stuff you can without crashing and burning, and you don't obsess over minor bobbles. As our music director says, "Nobody died, and nobody lost a million dollars, so it's all good."

81 posted on 12/11/2013 7:30:16 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Maybe you missed some of the comments LOL. The lyrics in music is what is important. Persons as some put it dancing doesn't bother me. The dancer in our church usually was a 90 something year old woman everybody called Granny. She didn't do it to be disrespectful she did it because the music uplifted her. Some churches are so rigid no one dare step away from the traditional allowed songs. No one dare say an Amen, laugh, or cry. No one dare write a new praise.
82 posted on 12/11/2013 9:02:01 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe
Many of our lyrics don't change. There's an Ordinary of the Mass that is always the same: Lord have mercy (Kyrie) Glory to God (Gloria) I believe (Credo) Holy Holy Holy (Sanctus) Memorial Acclamation (Mortem tuam) Great Amen and Lamb of God (Agnus Dei).

There's plenty of opportunity for new songs in the psalm settings, the offertory and the communion anthem - although our GIRM (General Instructions for the Roman Missal) sets some limits.

My personal opinion is that we Catholics have a treasury of over 800 years of particularly fine music written for the Mass that has passed the test of time, and it should be used more often rather than focusing exclusively on music from the last 10-15 years. There is GREAT stuff to be sung and it reminds us of our continuity.

And dancing is right out for us - although it's fine if you're evangelical or pentecostal because it's part of that tradition. One thing I've found is that the "liturgical dancers" who impose themselves on Episcopal and (heaven forfend) Catholic churches are the ladies who couldn't possibly get a gig anywhere else.

83 posted on 12/11/2013 10:29:53 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: markomalley

I find it lamentable that the music of anti-Catholic religious traditions have wormed their way into the Church. Liberals and progressives have long held tradition in any form in disdain and it comes as no surprise to me that the liberals within the Church are stripping away her sense of traditional music to the point where most Catholics have little understanding or regard for the Church’s historical heritage and yet go chasing after the often theologically challenged traditions of non-Catholic worshipping communities.


84 posted on 12/24/2013 10:25:48 PM PST by TradicalRC (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus.)
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To: cornelis
Music is war of the highest order.

You're probably right. I'm not a music expert, but Peter Kreeft has said that, in his experience, the most influential of his proofs for the existence of God is simply, "The music of Bach. You either get this one or you don't."

He said many people have told him that this simple line resulted in their ultimate conversion.

85 posted on 12/24/2013 10:38:47 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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