Posted on 12/03/2013 2:35:53 AM PST by markomalley
“You refer to your nephew’s wife as a ‘slut’, but surely all statistics show that husbands are the more likely to cheat on wives.”
Irrelevant. And of questionable accuracy in the current era. It appears that feminism has encouraged women to do a lot of “catching up” in this area.
As to shared custody, etc., that there are some women who divorce their husbands and inflict lower levels of pain and suffering on their family is not an issue of socioeconomic circumstances. It just means some folks are worse than others.
And nowhere have I said there aren't some men who are truly bad folks. Just that laws, as currently written, empower women to oppress their ex-husbands and children that don't go in the other direction.
With all the “shared custody” you're talking about, count: 1) How many divorced families with children do you know where the ex-husband pays child support? 2) How many where the ex-wife pays child support?
Which is the greater number?
Now, get back to me about “shared” custody.
“What is it that makes so many women want to marry the men in your family—and then leave them?”
Who said it's all in one direction? There are the ladies among my siblings and my wife's siblings who have initiated divorces.
sitetest
We’ve got, I think, to the nub of it. Like many bitter male Freepers on the subject of American women and divorce, you apparently think that when men work while their wives raise their children that the assets and the earning power of such men should solely belong to them—rather than being shared according to the arrangement of the marriage.
I disagree, and so we I expect we’ll continue to disagree in this discussion.
Tell us how you really feel.
As through out the discussion, you've missed it by a mile.
I don't think that the assets and earning power belong only to men.
You're deflecting having to answer my previous question - who gets child support? Who doesn't?
Nearly as many women work as men, now. And many women now out-earn their husbands. Yet, who gets child support? Who doesn't?
In my brother's case, he was willing to take physical custody of his kids, to protect them from the depradations of the whore that he'd married, and from the various & sundry men who traipsed through the whore's life and bed. He was a good father, the kids loved him, he stayed in the area, would have kept them in the same home and school, had relatives in the area willing to help him out (we often babysat our nephew and niece when he needed some help), and even better, wasn't screwing every object he could find or getting high. She had a more steady job (which she promptly quit to go whoring a thousand miles away, dragging her two little victims in tow), and made just as much money. Why not give my brother physical custody and give HIM child support?
My own view, as I mentioned previously, is that in no-fault divorces, the initiator should receive none of her/his victim's earnings or assets, and only a small part of the communal property. There should be penalties for initiating the voiding of serious contracts.
If the person believes he or she was the wronged party, one may still sue for divorce on a variety of grounds. My wife and I have a friend (a woman, of course) who sued her then-husband on grounds of mental cruelty. And won. Deservedly. Having proved substantial reasons in a court of law to void the marriage contract, she was entitled to custody, child support, etc.
So - how many guys do you know are getting child support? How many of the ladies? Do any of these ladies work? Any of the guys ever experience unemployment?
sitetest
“careers” are more glorified than family and children. Also today there is little ‘start from nothing’, got to have a two new cars, a furnished house, ample clothes and a few dogs. DINKs was an old term.
The only times I’ve actually seen men impoverished by divorce is when they’ve resented child support—and so have refused to work, either altogether or at the level at which they are capable.
Don’t know the circumstances of your nephew’s divorce, but child support laws AFAIK are based on situation, not sex.
If your nephew was unable to win custody in that situation, I take it that his wife was the primary caretaker of the kids, despite apparently making as much as or more than your nephew—in which circumstance I’m not surprised she became resentful.
"Tell us how you really feel."
Ah... I think I did. ;-)
I use a little hyperbole, but do not exaggerate.
Over the years, as I've met folks we both knew, me and my brother's ex-slut, I've found out that there is not a male we knew in common over the age of 16 whom she didn't either screw or proposition. Some of these revelations have been rather embarrassing. In all cases, they have astonished me.
I've never met any male with whom she refused to have sex.
sitetest
Still avoiding the question, I see. I'm not surprised. How many men do you know who receive child support from their ex-wives? How many ex-wives from their ex-husbands? Even in “shared custody” situations.
Why don't you look for some statistics on-line?
You might not like what you find.
sitetest
That is because young women will only consider the top tier of men, and ignore everyone else.
The top 20% of men get 80% of the sex. Most single men go man years without female companionship during the prime of their youth. The few men who are successful have no reason to settle for any one woman.
That's quite a set of relatives and acquaintances you've got there.
Then she is quite likely insane
I answered that question by implication. But actually the one divorce in my family did involve the wife paying child support after she had finished law school and had a high-paying job—even though she also had primary custody of the kids.
But in most situations I know, the woman has stayed home with the kids or at least worked the lesser job for more time with the kids, the man makes very good money, and he pays child support and educational costs through college.
He also generally doesn’t express resentment for the arrangement, but again, I seem to live in the land of mensches compared to wherever you live.
Look, the slut ultimately hooked up with its first cousin, and brought its young son and young daughter into that household. A chacun son gout, I guess.
I didn't say that all the thusly-approached males took up its offer. Just that it approached them. A lot of folks were apparently just as bewildered by the slut's actions as I was, and a bunch of others were afraid of the disease vector. But others...
sitetest
You lead a sheltered life.
Count your blessings.
And don't research the topic, as it will likely upset your sensibilities.
sitetest
You could be right. I don't know. I don't like to re-label extreme evil as “insane,” as it seems to let folks off the hook a little easy.
sitetest
Oh, and by the way, so the answer to my question is, nearly no women pay child support, nearly all men pay child support.
Thanks.
good point
Maybe I will use “Insanely evil” from now on
LOL.
Freepers are supposed to be about personal responsibility. Objecting to men paying child support does not strike me as an example thereof.
I feel sorry for the children in your circles.
“...top tier of men...”
This is a very interesting insight and probably is fairly accurate, although it most likely works both ways (the attractive girls get the attention).
Many thanks for the input.
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