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To: CynicalBear

The offering is once. The sanctification plays out over human time.

The difference is that i don’t accuse you of blaspheming the Holy Spirit because you have a different interpretation.

Meditate on that.


1,079 posted on 08/30/2013 5:43:05 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave; CynicalBear

Sometimes it’s easy to assume overtones to words that never were intended.

The only FATAL blasphemy is that of refusing the gospel for all one’s earthly life, the window that God has established for believing. It is a special blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and sui generis.

Other blasphemies large and small are really only another way of saying sins. Trace it back to the Garden of Eden events and it becomes easy to understand. Embrace an evil spirit = be a sinner. Embrace God again for salvation (a fresh offer, not made in the garden) = be now a SAVED sinner. Jesus said all blasphemies (save the sui generis one, which equates to never embracing God for salvation) would be forgiven.


1,083 posted on 08/30/2013 5:50:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: SoothingDave
>> The offering is once. The sanctification plays out over human time.<<

Hebrews 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath >b>perfected for ever them that are sanctified. Notice that word perfected. It does not say is perfecting but perfected, Already done forever. Do you not believe what the Holy Spirit said?

1,091 posted on 08/30/2013 6:37:33 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: SoothingDave; CynicalBear; boatbums

See post 1070. Sanctification has been completed and is being completed.

Spiritually, it is a done deal. In this physical body, still burdened with the flesh, it’s being worked out.

Spiritually I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live but Christ lives in me. Physically, this body hasn’t changed, except to become more broken down with age.

Spiritually, believers are seated with Christ in the heavenly places. Physically, my body is here on earth.

Spiritually, I am clothed in the righteousness of Christ. Physically, this flesh loves to sin too much and I sin.

Spiritually, I am alive in Christ. Physically, this body is dying and will die.

There is a spiritual reality around us, in which we operate as much as we do in the physical. Catholicism does not teach the reality of that spiritual dimension that is taught in Scripture. That’s why Catholics don’t get being positionally in Christ and how God can see us without sin even though He, we, and everyone else knows we sin.

He CHOOSES to not count our sins against us and to see us as having the righteousness of Christ, crediting it to our account Himself.

That is how we can say that once we are saved, ALL our sin is forgiven, even the sin we have not yet committed. But Catholics and Catholicism so focus on the here and now, that they can’t get past seeing the sin they commit.


1,120 posted on 08/30/2013 7:24:40 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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