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This is my issue with Governor Christie: no one is forcing him to be Roman Catholic. If I didn't agree with a religion's teaching on such a vital issue like sexuality, I wouldn't be part of that religion. I have more intellectual respect for pro-homosexual, pro-abortion atheists than I do for someone like him. Does anyone else here agree with me on this point?
1 posted on 08/19/2013 9:01:08 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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2 posted on 08/19/2013 9:02:14 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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Ok, Christie, become an atheist then.


3 posted on 08/19/2013 9:07:45 PM PDT by struggle
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That’s what I like, someone with a strong moral backbone!


4 posted on 08/19/2013 9:07:47 PM PDT by longhorn too
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Ya if he played it purely secular as a secular official that is one thing.

But to say he does not agree with his “chosen” or “inherited” faith, be it Roman Catholic or whatever sets him up as a heretic, like Pelosi, Biden, and Sebelius.

Choose this day whom ye shall serve.


5 posted on 08/19/2013 9:08:36 PM PDT by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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“I’ve always believed that people are born with the predisposition to be homosexual...

So for arguments sake, if I was born with a predisposition to beat the life out of homosexuals then it is OK?

11 posted on 08/19/2013 9:23:23 PM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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What’s odd is that Americans accept all kinds of therapy and counseling to adjust behaviors of all kinds - from addiction, to shyness, to infidelity to over-eating (hello mr. Christie)

Yet for some reason, we are supposed to believe that homosexuality is the one and only behavior which can never be adjusted through treatment?


12 posted on 08/19/2013 9:24:50 PM PDT by PGR88
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So the homos want to prevent two consenting adults from participating in conversion therapy.

The hypocrisy is overwhelming.


14 posted on 08/19/2013 9:42:11 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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You can’t selectively start tearing pages out of the Bible. You either have to believe the whole thing as the Word of God or the whole thing becomes just stories written by mere mortals.

Christie has made his position clear as a bell now. He believes he knows more than the scriptures about what qualifies as sin. That makes him the worst kind of unbeliever. It makes him a denier. It would be better for him if he never knew a word of the Gospel than to become a person who thinks he knows better than God.


16 posted on 08/19/2013 9:48:42 PM PDT by Bullish (Psalm 46)
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He can pretend to be whatever he likes, but in reality he's a member of the largest religion in this country, The Church of Go Along to Get Along that rationalizes and accepts whatever the media says should be part of our "culture".

Fornication, adultery, smoking dope, tattoos, piercing, abortion, euthanasia, queers, they've all been rationalized and accepted by the majority of people who tell you they're Christian the same way over 95% of black folks voted for King Barry even though 85% claim to oppose abortion being as easily available as it is if at all.

18 posted on 08/19/2013 10:08:41 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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Here is Christie’s statement on CNN:

“Well, my religion says it’s a sin,” Christie said on ‘Piers Morgan Tonight.’ “But for me, I don’t. I’ve always believed that people are born with the predisposition to be homosexual. And so, I think if someone is born that way, it’s very difficult to say then that that’s a sin. But I understand that my church says that. But for me personally, I don’ t look upon someone who is homosexual as a sinner.”

Actually, this shows that Christie does not understand Catholic teaching, so he’s just another not well catechized Catholic. The Catholic Church teaches that homosexual activity is a sin, not the inclination. The inclination is a disorder. However it is caused, an inclination to a particular type of sin is not sin itself.


19 posted on 08/19/2013 10:30:25 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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So, if your kid tells you they want to be a Serial Killer because they were born that way, you shouldn’t be able to take them to a Shrink?

The State of New Jersey is now a third Parent with 51% of the Vote?


20 posted on 08/19/2013 10:42:13 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Liberal Democrats are Communists. RINO Republicans are Communist Sympathizers.)
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“I’ve always believed that people are born with the predisposition to be homosexual,” quoting a statement he made on CNN. “My religion says [homosexuality is] a sin. But for me, I don’t” agree.

Translation: "Who am I to judge?"

21 posted on 08/19/2013 11:02:27 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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There goes any chance he may have had at becoming President!


22 posted on 08/20/2013 1:22:51 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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News flash to Chris Christie: The cafeteria is closed. Since you do not believe ALL that the Catholic Church professes and believes YOU HAVE EXCOMMUNICATED YOURSELF. Don’t go around telling people you are Catholic.


23 posted on 08/20/2013 2:15:32 AM PDT by veritas2002
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Christ Christie = just another arrogant politician that knows better

Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Next he will be saying let the murders walk they were born that way .


24 posted on 08/20/2013 3:05:12 AM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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I absolutely agree. Governor Christie makes himself, on top of everything else, a liar.

Plus he is confused about what the Church teaches. The Church teaches that to "be" a homosexual (for a man to experience a sexual attraction to men) is objectively disordered, but the cause of this disorder is open to continuing debate and in some cases strictly unknown. To the extent that the attraction is unwilled, it is not a sin in itself: it is a temptation to be rejected like any other temptation.

Neither does the Church say a person is obligated to change from homosexual to heterosexual. (That may, in some cases be impossible; and that which is impossible cannot be morally obligatory.) All that is required is that --- as a disciple of Christ --- one must abstain from homosexual sin (just as one must abstain from heterosexual sin.)

The faithful Catholic organization that provides spiritual support for homosexuals is called "Courage," and its aim is not reparative therapy or change of orientation, but living a chaste life in conformity to Christ.

My own view (as a faithful Catholic!) is that some kinds of "reparative therapy" are bogus and some are helpful. However I would not trust Christie or the APA to tell me which was which, since they both think the abominable sin of sodomy is a civil right.

25 posted on 08/20/2013 5:02:17 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("See something, say something.")
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Christie can always join the CINO club along with Pelosi and Biden.


26 posted on 08/20/2013 5:38:16 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Christie is a waffle head.....LUKE WARM!

I believe that Christie will be spit out!!


28 posted on 08/20/2013 6:58:59 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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Worse than that: he is taking the decision away from PARENTS!!! He is NOT the parent of all New Jersey children. This is tyranny!!!


29 posted on 08/20/2013 7:55:40 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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“My religion says [homosexuality is] a sin. But for me, I don’t” agree” Yeah, for sure!!!

As John wrote “I know your works; I know that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either cold or hot. So, because you are lukewarm, neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth.” (Revelation 3:15-16)


31 posted on 08/20/2013 2:19:30 PM PDT by Cunning8
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