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To: NKP_Vet

Gonna’ happen to the United Methodists before too long as they “struggle” to find a united stance of condemnation of homosexuality and abortion. But the Methodist do, however, frown heavily on gambling. So, you see, they do have some standards.


3 posted on 04/29/2013 7:14:50 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: laweeks
The UMC is also the only mainline Protestant denomination to officially stand against gay ordination and homosexual practice (without cursing/damning the person). The vote was so profound at the 2012 General Conference in Tampa, FL that abortion/RCRC issues weren't even allowed to be debated on the plenary floor - AND, since the 2012 GC, the leaders of the "Reconciling Ministries Network" and "Methodist Federation for Social Action" resigned from those positions and are now investigating the possibility of forming a new, "inclusive" denomination.

Just fyi....

10 posted on 04/29/2013 7:33:00 AM PDT by Prov3456
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But the Methodist do, however, frown heavily on gambling. So, you see, they do have some standards.

In my childhood, the Methodist Episcopal church was very conservative and frowned on any drinking at any time, and forbade dancing, card playing or movies on Sunday. Our family went to church a minimum of three times a week. All that started to change with the merger with United Church of Christ into the present United Methodist Church. The classic episcopal liturgy, the confessions, the sense of mystery and reverence all faded away, to be replaced by pop culture.

The first time I took an in-depth theology class in the 90s, I got up and left the UMC. It became very clear that the Bible was pretty much radioactive for most of the so-called "preaching" and teaching I had encountered in Methodism since around 1968 or so; and I was stuck on stupid there because we were the fifth generation of family in that church.

I remember talking one time in my early adulthood with our much beloved family pastor, the one who had officiated at my parents' wedding; and he was expressing amazement that his roommate in seminary "would read a Bible verse fifty or sixty times before sitting down to write a sermon -- fifty, sixty times!" He just couldn't understand why anyone would do that. I wanted to ask him "Who is this guy, and where is his church?" but family ties kept me silent. Silent no more. Now I say to anyone who will listen,

"Luther and Wesley are spinning in their graves!"

28 posted on 04/29/2013 9:22:47 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Don't believe any rumors in Washington, DC until they are officially denied.)
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To: laweeks; xzins

from what I’ve heard, the Methodists are so far winning against the homosexualists


81 posted on 04/30/2013 2:41:59 AM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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