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Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi will represent the United States at Pope Francis’ Inaugural Mass
http://www.catholicvote.org ^ | March 15, 2013 | Stephen Kokx

Posted on 03/15/2013 7:44:34 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: Salvation

What?


61 posted on 03/15/2013 10:03:06 PM PDT by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: ansel12

Let’s be real. There is no way they will be denied Communion. Ain’t gonna happen. That matters only to a tiny minority of conservative American Catholics.


62 posted on 03/15/2013 10:08:30 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?)
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To: ansel12

Way back, when Law was first made Cardinal, he was assigned as priest to a church in Rome, as all Cardinal-priests are. Because he was busy beign an archbishop, a vicar was assigned to cover the parish in his absence, as is the normal case for archbishop cardinals. When Law was forced to step down, he went back to his other job, being priest to the parish in Rome. He served there until he reached the age of retirement, when he was immediately replaced. But he continued to live on the premises.

When Pope Francis arrived, he visited Cdl. Law’s former church. Cdl. Law snuck in to meet with him, angering Pope Francis, who ordered him never to go to that church again, and is kicking him out of the apartment.


63 posted on 03/15/2013 10:13:01 PM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Cardinal Wuerl was upbraided by the Archbishop of Saint Louis, Cdl. Burke. Cdl. Wuerl basically told him to mind his own business. Pope Benedict XVI responded by making Cdl. Burke the head of what is essentially the Catholic Supreme Court, where Burke had the authority to publicly declare himself right and Wuerl wrong. Unfortunately, Wuerl has apostolic authority as a bishop, and short of heresy, cannot be removed.


64 posted on 03/15/2013 10:16:32 PM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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To: Jeff Chandler
There is no way they will be denied Communion. Ain’t gonna happen. That matters only to a tiny minority of conservative American Catholics.

The Catholic vote affects all of us, conservatives care tons about what effect he will have on the catholic vote.

65 posted on 03/15/2013 10:22:05 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: Salvation
I just researched the John Roberts and Blackmail and they come from an article questioning if there could have been blackmail involved in his vote, as a way to excuse it.

There was nothing at all other than true-believers in Roberts who failed to understand why he voted as he did and speculated that there might be blackmail involved, and then went further to proclaim that the supposed blackmail involved the adoption of his two children.

This article was nothing more than mere questions. Not even a shred of evidence about anything, just a lame attempt to explain away his selling out the pro-life position and his siding with the likes of Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sotomayor!

66 posted on 03/15/2013 10:22:23 PM PDT by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: dangus

So Law no longer has a Catholic title, and no longer lives within the church properties, and is now just a regular Joe pew sitter that has to find his own non-Catholic place to live and his own car and everything, just paying all of his own bills, rent, food, repairs, on his pension alone?


67 posted on 03/15/2013 10:25:31 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: Salvation

If you knew what I thought of the head of the Supreme Court being so disgusting, so unchristian, so vile and traitorous as to participate in blackmail to ruin America and rig Court decisions, or of the kind of person who thinks that is a good avenue of cover for someone, by offering up blackmail as something acceptable.

You would recognize that you are spreading one of the most horrible accusations against Roberts that is possible.

I don’t believe you of course, such a deed would make him worse than Benedict Arnold.


68 posted on 03/15/2013 10:34:57 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: ansel12
It was quite emphatically reported that Pope Francis was offended at his presence, I'm not sure what was meant by the report when it said that officials would arrange for him someplace else to live. Were they going to simply help him relocate, or provide some sort of more modest accommodations. I don't know if you saw any of the photos of the Vatican "hotel" that the cardinals stayed at, but their lodging consisted of a small room with a twin bed and a small desk.
69 posted on 03/15/2013 10:37:08 PM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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To: dangus

That looks typical, but it doesn’t answer anything, it sounds like the cardinal is doing just fine and that at age 82 or whatever, he may have to settle for a low public profile, unless he moves into his own place and gives up his roll in the Catholic organization.


70 posted on 03/15/2013 10:41:34 PM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: dangus

Dangus, You’ve hit on the crux of my question. Does Cardinal Burke have authority to tell the proaborts to abstain at the inaugural Mass? Or does that authority reside solely with Wuerl or the bishops in the home dioceses of these politicians?


71 posted on 03/15/2013 10:43:12 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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To: NKP_Vet

There is no way those two get along.


72 posted on 03/15/2013 10:48:40 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: zerosix
Actually, Roberts said it is a legal tax and that it is not the job of the USSC to protect idiots from those they elect of their own free will. He didn't say a word about whether or not the HHS mandate is legal because that was not a question before the court.
73 posted on 03/15/2013 11:02:54 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: surroundedbyblue
We will know very soon exactly where this Pope stands.

He has the rare opportunity to make an example of the evil degenerates the moslem in the WH sends as his emissaries in a deliberate insult to the successor to Saint Peter.

The satanic American communists and muhammedans worldwide will be watching to see if the moslem Hussein Baraka's provocation will be repulsed appropriately.

74 posted on 03/15/2013 11:05:24 PM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Salvation

“The truth will come out about all of this. I still like Roberts because he is a constitutionalist.”

Yeah, think about how much you like him when the Obamacare Death Panel gets you.


75 posted on 03/15/2013 11:33:52 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
They are arrogant and know that their heresy will be hailed as legitimate Catholic teaching in Catholic churches, schools, and colleges around the nation. Their receiving Communion is proof of their legitimacy.

And that is my greatest fear, the use of this sacrament for political gains. And perhaps it will be this act of arrogance that will bring an official excommunication order down upon them? A mockery of the Pope, Church, Faith, and God...after the massive denial at the DNC convention I put nothing past this 'evil' as it presents itself before the Eucharist.

And ya' know, in a way it makes a mockery of our Freedom of Religion in the long run.

76 posted on 03/16/2013 5:05:30 AM PDT by EBH ( American citizens do not negotiate with political terrorists.)
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To: NKP_Vet

It will be a deciding moment for the Catholic Church. Giving communion or not to abortionist supporters sets the template for what is most important for the church under this new Pope...politics or doctrine. The church’s future will be defined by the outcome.


77 posted on 03/16/2013 5:39:27 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( EVERY DIME Obama Spends is given to him by the Republicans in the House.)
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To: Ray76

>>>Sending the House minority leader is odd. It’s purpose is to insult.>>>

It’s more than an insult. It’s Obama’s outright announcement that he’s against the Catholic Church and ALL Christian religions.

But what did we expect from Osama Obama?

His speechwriters are now preparing his announcement that Christians are unwelcome in the USA.


78 posted on 03/16/2013 6:00:22 AM PDT by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY)
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To: longfellowsmuse

I suspect there are plenty of US priests in the Vatican who know exactly who Pelosi and Biden are and can advise the Pontiff accordingly. Let’s see if it matters...if it doesn’t, we’ll know how viable the future of the Church will be in America... “...hypocrisy is the birth of atheism...” John Paul II


79 posted on 03/16/2013 6:29:54 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: PeevedPatriot

Cardinal Wuerl is as bad as Mahony...no spine whatsoever when it comes to these catholic posers.


80 posted on 03/16/2013 6:32:11 AM PDT by matginzac
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