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...This guy is basically the big green light to every Marxist-homosexualist to just go ahead and do whatever, because they know Francis will never remove them or even chastise them, because Francis doesn't believe that the pope has any universal authority and is merely the bishop of the city of Rome proper - at least that is the excuse that will be given when nothing is done about abuses and heresies **that Francis is sympathetic towards.**

He has forbidden the Tridentine Mass in Argentina, which is an act of direct disobedience, specifically against the papal decree Summorum Pontificum, but embraces horrific "charismatic" and "Superfun Rockband"-type liturgical sacrilege...

...Tridentine Mass-goers and clergy, this guy will be on the warpath against us at some point.

...This guy's worldview revolves around giving people free stuff because it's nice, which as we have discussed is contrary to logic and reason, specifically in the subset of mathematics, and thus is contrary to Our Lord who is but FIRST the Logos, with the Divine Caritas (charity) proceeding out of the Logos. Bottom line, there will be zero positive assistance to the world from Francis with regards to the inevitable economic collapse.

Pope Ubama I.

1 posted on 03/15/2013 4:55:42 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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From so great an authority as Ann Barnhart.............


2 posted on 03/15/2013 4:58:23 PM PDT by basil (basil, 2ASisters.org)
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She really seems to have gone around the bend.

Hey, Ann, I don’t much like the Novus Ordo either. But did you expect the new Pope to reverse everything since Vatican II on his first day in office?

Calm down.


4 posted on 03/15/2013 5:07:01 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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He hates and despises the Tridentine Mass

This seems to be the trigger point to most of the people I see who hate him (other than libs). Why all the OCD over this one version of the Mass that almost paints him like the AntiChrist himself for not liking it?

6 posted on 03/15/2013 5:08:30 PM PDT by mnehring
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I can’t read it.

The only person I know who regards her rants, which may be on the nose one time out of ten, is a despised, raging, bipolar bookshop owner, who is correct about once out of ten times.

Methinks Ann is disappointed they did not consider her.


8 posted on 03/15/2013 5:12:03 PM PDT by stanne
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Who?


11 posted on 03/15/2013 5:15:50 PM PDT by onedoug
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He took immediate and decisive action on Cardinal Law today. Cloistered indeed.


12 posted on 03/15/2013 5:17:18 PM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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I could do with an honest questioning of the Pope’s past actions but this makes Ann sound like the Westboros.


13 posted on 03/15/2013 5:20:51 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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I am not a Catholic, but I was definitely not pleased to hear that this Pope was a South American Jesuit. That is, after all, the root of Liberation Theology (aka Christianized Marxism). I found it worrying the moment I heard his claim to fame was “social justice”. I’m sorry, but when the Catholic church starts talking “social justice” it often/usually means support for big government social welfare liberalism.

When Ratzinger was named Pope I was confident and happy with the news - and I know almost all political conservatives of all faiths felt the same way. This time, not so much. People are putting a brave face on and talking up the good things about this new leader, but I think on the economic issues Pope Francis is a big question mark so far. I absolutely admit that I could be totally wrong, but even the chance that the Catholic church could move further left on economic positions is just very unwelcome news.


14 posted on 03/15/2013 5:20:55 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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Jesuits, in addition to being a cult of sodomites who hate God, are also … wait for it … Marxists. Now Francis has in the past put up some token resistance to so-called "Liberation theology", which is just Communist Totalitarianism in religious drag, but he is huge, huge, huge on "social justice", which is merely code for Marxism.

If you wanted to raise as many flags as possible, among as many groups of outsider observers as possible, especially for some end time prophecy fans, that pretty much covers everything.

16 posted on 03/15/2013 5:25:07 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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What a nutcase. Lies, distortions and general involuntary commitment material.

Cardinal Bergoglio was in compliance with Summorum Pontificum within 48 hours.

There are around 6-8 Tridentine Mass locations in Argentina including the one in Buenos Aires.

It is possible that restoring traditional liturgy isn’t his #1 interest, granted.

Looking forward to assisting at my Latin Mass on Sunday...


17 posted on 03/15/2013 5:26:01 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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No one has the slightest comprehension of the idea of seeing Our Lord in agony and simply stepping over to Him and asking, "What can I do to help You? What can I do to make You feel better? Let me take some of Your burden. Let me go with You." Nope. So long as we all leave Him alone in His Passion, He will leave us to our self-absorption and indifference.

Unbelievably unscriptural PING! (as if WE can "help" Jesus at the cross. Hint: He did it ALL Himself, and He does not "need" our pitiful help)

20 posted on 03/15/2013 5:31:02 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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Personally, I would not poo-poo what she is saying here. She is right a lot of times. This is a wait and see situation, she may have some good points to moniter.
21 posted on 03/15/2013 5:31:31 PM PDT by Cindy of Nashville (What has the Democrat party become???)
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I wonder if the Latin Mass schismatics are kicking themselves now because they didn’t take Benedict up on his eagerness to bring them back into the fold. A couple of months ago, the Pope was someone who wanted them back badly. This guy does not have that as a priority.

They should have come back when the welcome mat was out.


23 posted on 03/15/2013 5:35:10 PM PDT by married21
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A you asked for it ping


25 posted on 03/15/2013 5:43:22 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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Good Lord!
Barnhardt is starting to make Alex Jones and Lyndon Larouche look SANE by comparison. X.x


32 posted on 03/15/2013 6:01:56 PM PDT by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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That Pope Francis removed Cardinal Bernard Law from his position at the Basilica Santa Maria Maggiore in Rome tells me he is going to deal harshly with people like Law. Those who ignored pedophile priests when in leadership positions will be removed from their present positions. I think Ann Barnhardt should take another look at Pope Francis' dealings with church pedophilia.

Ann Barnhardt's criticism of Pope Francis for forbidding the use of the Tridentine Mass in Argentina has its reason. The 1962 Tridentine Mass is sometimes referred to as the "usus antiquior" (older use) or "forma antiquior" (older form), to differentiate it from the newer form of the Roman Rite in use since 1969 when Pope Paul VI initiated the newer revised Mass, as a result of the Second Vatican Council. For this reason, the Tridentine Mass became obsolete and the reason that, then, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Buenos Aires wanted to stay with the new form.

Most people associate the Tridentine Mass with that form said in Latin. Pope Paul VI actually wrote the new form in Latin and said it was OK to celebrate the new form in Latin.

The new Mass form has had its criticism from the very start with the "the Ottaviani Intervention" in June of 1969. The argument said that the new form was in variance to the Council of Trent (1545-63). This criticism has been voiced by Traditionalist Catholics ever since. To understand the issues voiced by the Traditionalist Catholics and Ann Barnhardt against the Pope Paul VI form, one would need the expertise of a Catholic theologian. Any experts out there?

33 posted on 03/15/2013 6:06:32 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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Interesting. Very interesting. Thanks to Ann Barnhardt, E. Pluribus Unum and every poster.


34 posted on 03/15/2013 6:08:20 PM PDT by PGalt
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Pope Francis are polar opposites. Pope Francis, in his simplicity and reasonableness, is the stark rebuke to the current President's avaricious thirst for power, extravagance and living large, while people are suffering.

And he is spiteful. He shuts down the White House to the people because he wants to manipulate the situation. But he could pay for those visits easily by cutting a $27 million program to teach Moroccans how to make pottery, a program that is in itself rather arrogant and tinged with racism. WE are going to teach Moroccans how to make a tagine? They've been making pottery for millennia. It's like Morocco spending $27 million to teach Canadians how to play Hockey. But His Royal Hawaiian Highness would not even consider cutting the silly pottery subsidy. No, he has to "stick it to" the ungrateful population.

35 posted on 03/15/2013 6:09:16 PM PDT by cookcounty
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"blessing" of a Superfun Rockband Church "pastor"

....lemme guess....Rick Warren.

40 posted on 03/15/2013 6:24:00 PM PDT by TomServo
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Sheesh Ann, let’s give him a chance. I like Ann’s passion for most things but this is over the top.


42 posted on 03/15/2013 6:28:38 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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