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To: CTrent1564

I have not read all the comments from the recent posts by Rorate Caeli.

But I also think there is a difference in a dogma of the Church that cannot ever be changed (say abortion) and attacking the Pope over that versus a matter of discipline.

Furthermore, the Papacy over the past 50 years or so has to get a failing grade when it comes to discipline. Look at the statistics of the worldwide Church. Yes, I know in some places like sub-Saharan Africa things are much better, although in places like Europe things are much worse than even here in the US. Worldwide priest shortage, sacraments being ignored, Mass being ignored, natural law ignored, and so on.

The last few Papacies do deserve a lot of the blame for this! I do not know how else to put it. Maybe the new Pope Francis will surprise me very nicely, but I do not see him as the tough guy needed not just for reform the Curia after Vatileaks, but even more we need a Pope to reform the mass of lukewarm priests and lukewarm at best laity.


5 posted on 03/14/2013 3:29:06 PM PDT by LovedSinner
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Pope Francis Has Written to Fr. Gruner
11 posted on 03/14/2013 5:40:10 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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LovedSinner:

I think by and large, the last 2 Popes were excellent but like all men, they had their weaknesses and failings. I for one can’t seem to grasp the fact that because Pope Francis is not the Liturgical Scholar that Benedict was [Pope John Paul II was not either], that he will reverse Pope Benedict’s decree on the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Liturgy. While Pope Francis may not like to celebrate it, I don’t think he will impede those Catholic orders, i.e. Institute of Christ the King, etc, to continue to be dedicated to celebrating the older form of the Roman Liturgy. I found the comments over at Rorate Caeli lacking the basics of Christian Charity and Hope, which along with Faith, as any orthodox Catholic should know, are the 3 Theological virtures as stated by St. Paul (cf. 1 Corinthians 13:13].


15 posted on 03/14/2013 7:53:57 PM PDT by CTrent1564
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